Chamomile! Is there anything this plant can't do? Today on our show we deep dive into this versatile and powerful oil and focus on its uses for anxiety and stress. Our guest today is Dr. Nicole Cain who specializes in anxiety and naturopathic medicine.

Dr. Nicole Cain has a degree in clinical psychology, and is a licensed Naturopathic Physician in Arizona. She has been interviewed as a mental health expert in Forbes, along with being published in Psychology Today and Well+Good. Dr. Nicole's mission is to introduce a new paradigm for understanding and treating our mental health through her monthly membership, online courses and seeing clients on-on-one. In her free time Dr. Nicole loves "treasure hunting" at consignment shops for Moroccan and Asian antiques. 

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0 (39s): Hello, hello. Welcome to the Essential Oil Revolution. I'm your host Samantha Lee Wright. Thanks so much for being here with me today. Our guest today is Dr. Nicole Kane, who I have crowned the anxiety killer queen, and we're gonna deep dive into chamomile where we will of course talk about how chamomile has been a game changer for her anxiety and how she incorporates chamomile into her work with her clients. But we'll also talk about chamomile as a whole, the plant where it comes from, the many, many, many uses and important safety tips when using this oil.

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0 (4m 27s): While I'm here with Dr. Nicole Kane, who has a degree in clinical psychology and is a licensed naturopathic physician in Arizona, she has been interviewed as a mental health expert in Forbes along with being published in Psychology Today and well and good. Dr. Nicole's mission is to introduce a new paradigm for understanding and treating our mental health through her monthly membership online courses, and through seeing clients one-on-one. Dr. Nicole, welcome back to the show. How are you?

5 (4m 59s): It's like coming home and hanging out with one of my favorite people. I'm so happy to be here.

0 (5m 5s): I'm so glad to hear that. Well, I remember back in the summer of 2021, you came on to the show to talk about panic attacks. I think that was episode 2 74 and I remember it being just one of my favorite interviews, so I'm thrilled to be talking with you as well. You're right, it sounds like talking to a dear Fred, so it's been a while though, so catch me up real quick on what's been going on in your world since we last spoke.

5 (5m 32s): I have actually really exciting news since the time that we were together. I decided that I was going to write a book and so I got a deal with a major publishing house and I'm writing a book called Panic Proof, and so hopefully this is actually one of my first announcements about it. And so that's like really exciting, but hopefully that it's so

0 (5m 57s): Exciting. Thanks 5 (5m 58s): Babe. It's, it's gonna be the best. This is like everything that I've been teaching my clients for over a decade. My experience is becoming panic proof, anxiety, freedom, and it's gonna be all in this like beautiful book that's going to teach you how to become your own holistic wellness expert. And we're gonna talk about oil's, naturopathic medicine, it's just gonna be great. And it's supposed to drop fall 2024. And so I'm really pumped to be announcing that with you today.

0 (6m 30s): Yay. That's so exciting. And yeah, that timeline sounds about right. I, I'm just blown away at how long it takes to write a book. Like I've only written one book in my life. It was a very short book. It was an instructional book about how to start a podcast and it's called Pineapple Podcasting. And I, it took me about two years to write that, you know? Yes. Like, I think it was less than a hundred pages. It was crazy.

5 (6m 56s): I need to buy this book as an aside. Yeah, pineapple podcast. I'll

0 (7m 0s): Send it to you girl. Yeah, don't worry, I'll

5 (7m 2s): Send it to you, me up.

0 (7m 5s): So that's really exciting and because your story really is so powerful, I mean, people can go back and listen episode 2 74, it was really incredible what you've gone through and how you've turned that into really your life's mission now to help other people deal with anxiety. Now, if I'm not mistaken, during our interview, chamomile oil did not come up. I don't think we talked about chamomile oil, which kind of surprised me unless I'm mistaken. I'm not sure how good your memory is, but I'm really excited. I

5 (7m 36s): Remember diving into, we were talking about like the nitty gritty biomechanics of lavender quite a lot and like how they can go into the nose to the hypothalamus of the brain and absorb through the skin to then creating activation of your vagus nerve. But I don't think in all of that that we talked about chamomile.

0 (7m 59s): Yeah. Which is kind of surprising when I think of chamomile. I think of it as being such a peaceful, soothing oil that would go really hand in hand with anxiety. So yeah, I'm really glad that we're, we're gonna dive into that oil today. So, you know, let's, let's get started. So I always like to start out with sort of like the background of the plant itself. You know, what, what do you know about where chamomile oil comes from? The different species, the parts of the plants that are used, where it's grown, all that stuff?

5 (8m 28s): I love two main types of chamomile. There's lots of different chamomile plants, but there are two main chamomile that we use medicinally, and they're German chamomile and Roman chamomile. And of course they have the Latin names. And so German chamomile is likely, if you're drinking chamomile tea right now, it's likely that that's the type of chamomile you're drinking. It's called aria. And then the roaming chamomile is actually came noble. And so those are the two main types that you're gonna see. So if you go and you look in your T section at the Healthman store or you look at essential oils, you're more likely gonna see those two.

5 (9m 11s): So that's where I'd love to focus today is on the types of chamomile that you can actually use and enjoy and find. And so I'll tell you a little bit about them. And so they, they have a lot in common, but there's some really interesting differences. So one of the things that they have in common is that they're both beautiful flowering plants that you can find all over the world. And they're both members of the Astra Ca family, which is known as the Sunflower family, which is really interesting to know too because some people have hypersensitivities to plants in the Astra, a ca family. So if you're gonna have an allergic reaction, it's most likely that it's going to be ASCA and there's like 32,000 different species of asca.

5 (10m 3s): But when I have a patient come in and I'm making them a tincture or recommending oils or even just like eating the plant itself in a salad, which is one of my favorite ways to use plant medicine, is always checking in to make sure like, are you allergic to daisies or Chris anthems or sunflowers or anything like that. Because it appears that people tend to, if anything, have an allergy to these. Okay. A good hack for that though is to take the oil or to take the fresh leaves or the flowers of whatever it is you think you might be reacting to and then kind of macerate it or grind it up a little bit and then place it on your skin.

5 (10m 44s): And there's a place on the inside of your elbow, it's called the anti cubital fossa, which is basically like your elbow pit where they drop blood and then just kind of rub it gently on that area and then see if within 24 hours, if you get any sort of a little bit of a rash or a histamine reaction, then that probably means that it may not be an optimal plant for topical or internal use because you're already getting your immune system reacting to it, so you don't wanna take it internally. And then in that case then there's so many other wonderful plants that might be a better fit for you that aren't in that family.

0 (11m 18s): Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that safety tip. That's super important to know. And I had no idea that that fa, that plant family was so large. So, but I'd imagine someone going through life would've encountered something like sunflower seeds in their, in their diet where they would kind of have an idea if they had that sensitivity.

5 (11m 36s): Yes, exactly. And this is one of my favorite types of plants. And so we don't wanna just throw it out and be like, Ooh, some people are allergic to it. I'm not even gonna bother with chamomile. I want you to listen to this full podcast and learn about all the deliciousness of chamomile because it is, like you said, one of our best anxiolytics, and that's a word that we use in plant medicine and and pharmacology actually where anx refers to anxiety. Lytic means to stop or break, it comes from the word lysis. And so anxiolytic means it's our anti-anxiety medicines. And so

0 (12m 13s): Okay,

5 (12m 14s): Try chamomile. And so we were talking about the differences in Roman chamomile and German chamomile, and one is in its appearance. And so when you look at the, the members of the plant family, the astray, say the chamomile family is we use the leaves and the flowers and the leaves will actually produce kind of a bluish kind of tint or concentration. And that's because both of these plants, they're essential oils in the plants called oozine and Kama kalin kazin it, it has this kind of delicious blue concentration to it, but we find that there's more of that.

5 (13m 0s): There's a higher concentration of that in the German chamomile. And so you'll find that the essential oil of miniature carrier or German chamomile is gonna be more blue versus the Roman chamomile is gonna have less blue to it. In fact, it may be like a little bit more like yellow in color.

0 (13m 19s): You know, the, the blue color from the German chamomile is one of my favorite shades of blue. Like I wish I could do a whole painting dedicated to just that shade of blue. It's this deep, rich, just nat, you know, so many blues in our world are, are kind of can come off as almost unnatural, but that that really rooted deep blue from the plant. There's not many plants that are a true blue. And it's just one of, one of the things I really love about that oil, it's just almost just looking at it without even smelling it first calms me down because it's that beautiful. That sounds really dorky, but it's true.

0 (13m 60s): So the oil itself, is it distilled mostly from just the leaves or do they distill it from the flowers or the stems or anything as well?

5 (14m 9s): It depends on the company. And so what you are wanting to look for when finding really good essential oils is where the medicine is the most concentrated in the plant. And then you wanna find out when is the concentration the highest through the growth pattern of the plant. And then you wanna make sure that they're using the proper distillation process to pull it all out. And so that's when you go into the actual like manufacturing and harvesting and all of those details about great brands. And I've done some of that work and I know you have too. And that's why it's so nice to have resources like this podcast is because otherwise you're gonna spend all your days like trying to figure out the wildcrafting and the manufacturing and nobody has time for that.

5 (14m 60s): And so, you know, the brands that Samantha, that you recommend, I think are actually generally really great. And so for your listeners is you can generally speaking like trust what these manufacturers are doing. But some hacks to know if you, if you're like, well, I wanna do the digging myself is when we're thinking about the chamomile, so the flowers have different constituents, the leaves have different constituents, the leaves have lots of those, the zine volunteer oils. And so you're gonna wanna plant that has grown and it's producing leaves. And if you're using the leafs primarily, and the oil will tell you where it came from, it'll usually say like flowering tops or it will say leaves or flowers. 5 (15m 46s): But if you're getting a plant that has the zine oils from the leaves is you wanna see if this plant was harvested before it went to flower. Because if they're not using the flowering parts, then it, once it flowers, all of those nutrients are gonna be pulled out of the roots, the stems and the leaves and all of that energy's gonna be put into the flour. So that's the part of the plant that's gonna have the most medicinal value. So when you're getting it harvested and you, and it's saying I we're using the leaves, is if you go back and you ask them about their manufacturing process, they actually have that information available for you. You just have to ask them for it. When did you harvest? 5 (16m 26s): Did it go to flower first or did you harvest it before it went to flower? And if on the other hand they say all flowering parts is, then you wanna make sure that it's like at the heart of the flowering process and that it isn't like after, you know, falls come and like the plant is starting to go to sleep and it's losing flowers and leaves. Do you wanna make sure that it's like right at the, the moment when it's just bursting with that energy? Yeah.

0 (16m 50s): I love that you've said that it, it's so important to, to realize that I'll never forget one of the first forays I add into wildcrafting. I have a dear friend that lives in the mountains here with me who takes people out into the woods and teaches them, you know, how to identify local edibles, medicinals and things like that. And, and it, it's, it sounds so obvious saying it out loud now, but when she said this in the class, it really struck with me that she, she was explaining the importance of, of harvesting plants at the proper season because of what you're just saying about where the energy is in the plant. And she says, you know, we all know if we'd look, if we look at a a nana tree, we can tell if it's time to eat those bananas or not, right?

0 (17m 39s): Are they, you know, are they growing? Are they in seed form? Are they dark green, you know, or are they ripe? And we know, you know, when we see food or fruits or vegetables, we know when we can eat that, right? We're not gonna go out into our garden and pick, you know, our, our tomatoes when there's no tomatoes on the leaves, right? When it's in that, when the energy's in the roots or or into the growing the leaves. But with, with herbal medicine, I think sometimes we f we kind of forget that and we disassociate and we go, oh well, you know, lavender is, lavender is lavender, you know, it doesn't matter when you harvest it. But now it's, I mean, those same principles apply. You gotta know where the energy is in the plant in the right time of the season to get those full benefits as a human right f from that plant.

0 (18m 27s): So I'm glad that you, you brought that up. Well, I wanna hear Dr. Nicole about the benefits of came. I mean you've already pointed to it being great for anxiety, it's got a lot of those properties, but are there any stories you could share about the use of this oil in, in your life or our clients?

5 (18m 45s): Oh my heavens, I have so many stories. I make lots of tinctures and recipes and I often will have somebody use the same plant in different ways. And so for example, start your day with a cup of chamomile tea throughout the day, use the essential oil and then in the evening maybe relax with another cup of tea. Like there's so many different ways to use it and it just sort of depends on what you're trying to accomplish. And so if we talk a little bit more about German chamomile and then I'll tell a little bit about Roman chamomile. German chamomile is one I have the most experience with because it has more of the zines that we're looking for that really great activity from.

5 (19m 35s): But it has other constituents that are really cool too. So it has, and they all have like the weirdest, most unpronounceable words, but they, it has the sesqua terpenes and so German chamomile, those sesqua terpenes make it anti-inflammatory, anti-spasmodic. And so you can use the tea and you can make like a, a warming compress, which I could tell you a little bit more about, which is where you take tea, you take all the flowering parts, which is like the leaves and the seeds and the stems and you put it in a big thing of water and you boil it covered for like 20 minutes and then you put like a washcloth or a sock or whatever part of the body you're trying to soothe and then you soak it in that and then you ring it out and then you apply it to the C, the part of the body that's inflamed or spasming.

5 (20m 25s): And so I have a friend who rolled her ankle and sprained it really badly. Her ankle was just so hot and swollen and was just really, really inflamed. And so we had her do alternating hot and cold using chamomile baths and it was very, very effective. It helped reduce the spasming and the pain and the muscles and the joints. It reduced inflammation. It was very soothing. She mixed a little bit of the essential oil for those volatile, the zines that smell so good. And there's something interesting about when we cook the plant. So when you steep it and heat and steam, the zooing actually get converted to another agent called azine, which has even more anti-inflammatory effects.

5 (21m 17s): And then if you take that internally, which is again I'm talking about like soaking the plants and then cooking it and then taking that cooked plant like we just soaked it, it will actually support the pituitary adrenal access to stop histamine. And so it will release cortisone or cortisol and then cortisol is actually anti-inflammatory. And then that will reduce histamine. And so if you're having an allergic or a histamine reaction, or in her case her ankle was hugely swollen and irritated, there's a histamine reaction there doing the external compress. But then drinking the tea, which then has that converted taline into azulene, it helped even more.

5 (22m 1s): And then of course it's a sedative so it relaxed her. And so there's lots of different things. There's also matin that's in the German chamomile. There's CINs which are very anti-inflammatory. There's flavonoids in German chamomile, which a flavonoid is something that's incredibly antioxidant. It's so good for your cells, it helps combat free radical damage. So if you've had a night like she did where she was maybe overindulging a little bit and then she tripped, rolled her ankle. So we want antioxidants to help with the overindulgence of beverages and there's some actions of German chamomile that you can find in both the plant and in the essential oil extraction of the plant.

5 (22m 46s): And so it's a sedative. And so it's good if you feel anxious or stressed or if you burn the candle at both ends. If you're laying awake at night and you're having a hard time falling asleep, you want a plant that's sedating, it will relax you and help promote sleepiness. What I also love is that cha meal is super good for vodkas of vodka batta. Are you familiar with, are you Veic medicine? Have we talked about that together yet?

0 (23m 13s): Oh, I've interviewed a few guests on the podcast that are inic medicine. So I have like a very, a very basic

5 (23m 19s): Background of it. Oh gosh. So y'all listening to this podcast, go back and listen to her other veic medicine interviews because it's such a cool topic. And so when we're looking at making sure you get the right plant for the right action is Aveda can help you zero in on that. And so there's really great essential oils for calming anxiety. But what if you have more of a VA anxiety, which is where you have gas and bloating and nervousness, a hard time sleeping, you're kind of restless maybe a little bit a D H D you're like in 10 different places at once is chamomile is really good for that because chamomile is a sedative because of the, the components we just talked about.

5 (24m 6s): It's also a carative, which means it helps with digestion. And so with Vata, if you have that gassiness and that bloatiness and also the anxiety is chamomile's gonna check those boxes, it's gonna be really good for that. Cuz she's sedative, she's a carative, she's also anti-inflammatory and she helps with all of the things having to do with like diarrhea, nausea, lack of appetite. And it's also a really nice wonderful safe plant that can be used in kiddos as well as adults. And so that's something that you should absolutely have on your medicine cabinet. So think chamomile if you have anxiety, digestive upset, if you have signs of inflammation, whether it's like itchiness, swollenness like my friend in her ankle, like that's all German chamomile and it's so delicious.

5 (25m 2s): It's kind of, the German chamomile has a different taste than Roman chamomile. German chamomile is gonna be kinda like sweet straw kind of herbaceous. It's got some grassy notes to it, which is, I like that cuz I like to taste tea that kind of feels like I'm eating out of my garden. The, she checks all those boxes. I personally, Sam chamomile has been a game changer in my life. I've talked about my story with you before of having so much anxiety and stress and what I've done is I've created this really lovely routine. Our brains are very rhythmic, they like routines and they're also very associative.

5 (25m 47s): And so what I've created is this beautiful nighttime regimen, or there's a word that's not coming to mind, but it's like my routine. It's like a routine that works. It's like my routine at nighttime and I have a cup of chamomile tea and I like to mix it with lavender. And then I will actually put chamomile and lader in the diffuser. So it's like this wonderful aromatic. So I'm getting the essential oils coming in the nose. What's really super interesting too, I know I'm like having so much fun with this and talking a lot, but this is the coolest stuff you guys, this is like plant medicine and it what

0 (26m 30s): Can't she do this, this chamomile? She's amazing.

5 (26m 33s): She's amazing. We all need chamomile. Is that the volatile, this is just so cool. So the volatile oil oils, they go into your nose and they go directly into the brain. There's this whole part of your brain, it sits on the cribriform plate, there's receptors in the cribriform plate. Your nose sends information to those receptors, which then sends it into the brain and it literally changes the way that the brain sends signals and information. And so if you're brain, if you're a, your amygdala, your emotional brain, if she's in fight flight, freeze, if she's in stress and you're trying to fall asleep where your kids are like running around and there's mayhem, or if you've been running around or your spouse is running around and it's mayhem that even just smelling the vault, how oils it goes straight into the brain goes into the hypothalamus of your brain and it's like, just take a breath.

5 (27m 29s): Let's calm, let's get into our earthy groundedness. These plants come out of the earth, they're very grounding grounds that latte energy, it's sedating, it's delicious. So drink a cup of tea, smell the oil, allow yourself to create this routine to tell your body that now it's time to relax. And that's, that's a little bit of the, the wonderfulness of chamomile. And then of course it's good for your tummy. And so Wow. Yeah. Wow. I know

0 (27m 56s): Right. Pause for a second there because I have a que you said that it's a great oil for kids. And I just wanna ask in your research the, I can't remember where I came across this piece of information, but in my mind I've been told that Roman chamomile is kind of the go-to for young kids versus the German chamomile. Maybe that's just because the German is a lot more potent or powerful. So you wanna use the more kind of gentler version. I'm not sure how important that safety tip is, but I'm curious if you you've come across anything like that.

5 (28m 30s): I've seen that because of the potential for allergic hypersensitivity with kids, because exactly what you said, because it is a little bit, it's a stronger, more potent plant. But then we could use it dose dependency. And this is something that I'm really passionate about teaching people is I use all sorts of low-dose plants. For example, pulsatilla flour, that's a low-dose plant because if you eat large amounts of puls till it's very, very toxic. But in the right baby size doses, these plants have just unmatched beautiful healing. Medicinal power is just, you don't wanna, you know, it's like drinking alcohol like a little bit of alcohol may not cause the same effect as drinking gallons of it.

5 (29m 13s): And so think about it that way is number one is if you're giving someone a cup of cile tea is, depending on the age and the size and the way that person responds to herbal medicines, you might need to give them a little bit less of the tea or you might have it soak a little bit less or try a small spot like we talked about earlier if you're using the oil is try a small spot on the inside of their elbow and see if there's any sort of of that hypersensitivity reaction. The biggest contraindication with chamomile that I really put my hang my hat on is don't use chamomile before 12 weeks in pregnancy because it is a smooth muscle relaxant.

5 (29m 57s): And that could increase the risk of miscarriage in pregnancy, especially in those first 12 weeks. But it's, it tends to be really well tolerated. I give it to kids all the time and as long as you don't have that hypersensitivity and as long as it's not too high of a dose, I find that they do super well, especially babies with colic. That's another great story.

0 (30m 20s): And cradle cap, I believe it's really good for that too.

5 (30m 22s): Oh absolutely. Thank you for mentioning that because derm is so hard to treat and if we can do something like a plant instead of a steroid, that's gonna make such a big difference in the long run of their health.

0 (30m 34s): Yeah, yeah. Now how would you use it for a a baby in the instance of colic? Would you just kind of have it diffusing or would you heavily diluted maybe rub it on their chest?

5 (30m 45s): Yeah, I would do a warming or a cooling compress depending on the constitution of the baby. And so what again you would do is you would make a tea. And so you could start with the essential oils if they're not too bothersome to the baby in terms of like, you know, some babies like they smell something and they get like really upset. Their nervous system is really amped up. If they're really reactive to the smells, then just use the tea and then you would boil water and then you would put like six tea bags and your typical 30 ounce kettle and then cover that for 20 minutes. And so then you're letting all those volatile oils stay inside. You're gonna put in a nice little washcloth or if you do cloth diapers, like a cloth diaper and then you're gonna soak it and it's gonna absorb all of those wonderful active constituents.

5 (31m 35s): And then you can put that gentle warming, compress right on the tummy. Or if they're having like a cough or creep inflammation in their lungs or their bronchials, you can actually place that warm cloth over their chest and their tummy and then wrap 'em up like a nice little burrito. And so the warm can be very soothing, the skin will absorb it. Again, if you want that volatile oil component, the essential oils can be brilliant for that. But if again, there's sensitive to the inhalation, then just use the tea. Or if they're already hot and feverish and bothered, then you can actually do a cooling wrap where now you've soaked it in the same way you've rung it out so it isn't the swampy thing and then just put it in the refrigerator for 10 minutes and cool it off so that when they place it on the body, it's not shockingly cold but it's a little cooling.

5 (32m 25s): And then the body will heat the co that warming compress. And then that process of heating the warming compress is actually really good for stimulating your immune system to kick out whatever's causing the issue.

0 (32m 35s): Lovely, thank you for walking us through that in super detail cuz I know that word comes up a lot like a compress or a poulis and some people are like, I just have no idea what that is. So yeah, thank you for walking through through all that, really appreciate it. Yeah. Dr. Nichol, this has been so much fun. I, I wanna leave some time to go through our, our closing questions real quick. Sarah, are there any last tips or things or stories you wanna share about chamomile?

5 (33m 4s): Mm, I had a little baby who came into my office. She was like nine months old and she was having just the worst colic and chamomile can be used homeopathically, it could be used as an essential oil, it can be used as a plant and it can be eaten. It, I think it's a tasty salad. You can't really get kids to eat it cuz it's like kind of bitter as a salad. But this little one came in and a great indicator for chamomile is if they have red hot irritable, their stomach is hurting. You see a lot of chamomile babies, they're gonna wanna arch their back. So when their stomach is colicking and their stomach is hurt, you're gonna see them like trying to fling themselves backwards and try to fling themselves outta your arms.

5 (33m 52s): And they're crying and they're inconsolable. You'll find parents wanting to bounce them and they may feel a little bit better from more vigorous movement, but they tend to be like pretty upset and inconsolable. And so we did two things. One is we did that, that warming compress where we soaked the, the, the cloth diaper and the tea and we put that on the tummy. It was a little bit cooler. And so then the tummy got to warm it up and we gave her homeopathic chamomile and we didn't use the aroma of the essential oil because this baby was just like not having any of it. And so we just used just the straight up German chamomile plant and the next day she was 100% better.

5 (34m 39s): She was happy, her stomach wasn't hurting, she had a really good bowel movement, so there's something going on in her tummy. And the parents were just so delighted that they didn't have to take her to urgent care and put her on an antibiotic because they were really worried. And so this plant can have really quick actions and it can have really powerful actions. And I wanted to mention the case of the baby, just to share an example for parents out there who are like, if I do use it with my kids, how can I? And so that's one of my favorite stories of cha meal. Saving the day.

0 (35m 11s): Absolutely happy baby. Makes for a happy parent. Yes, cha, meal to the rescue. I love it.

5 (35m 18s): Yay.

0 (35m 23s): Dr. Nicole, this has been so much fun. I just, you always bring the best information to the show. I think we need to have you on way more often. It's been too long. So before you go, I know you've answered these questions once before, but we always like to, to ask them again, what's one, one or two self-care practices you try to do every day to stay healthy?

5 (35m 44s): I go outside and I put my feet on the earth and I try to face my face to the sun if there is sun. And just allowing that grounding moment to breathe and to be, and to earth and to ground. I think that we like as doctors to overcomplicate things and sometimes it's just a matter of being mindful in the moment. And that actually hacks the Amy, the amygdala hijack. The amygdala hijack is when our emotional brain starts running on dangerous signals, which can send us into inflammation, it can send us into anxiety, it can interfere with our sleep, it can make us irritable and angry.

5 (36m 24s): And so we can hijack the amygdala hijack and calm the brain by going outside, putting your feet in the earth, breathing for at least 30 seconds and then going back at what you're doing. So that's number one.

0 (36m 38s): Love it, love it. And finally, what's just one thing we should all ditch completely and replace with something healthier today?

5 (36m 45s): I would love to have a stitch shoulda with acus and embrace it is what it is. And I embrace what it is. And that I think gives us a lot of power to be free, to accept and to embrace where we are in our lives. Yeah, and I think acceptance is really powerful because we're always transforming, but we get stuck when we put expectations on what didn't happen and hijack our happiness now.

0 (37m 13s): Yeah, I know. We, we don't go through this world to be perfect. We go through to grow and learn and you know, without making mistakes we wouldn't be able to do that. So yes, I love that. Well, awesome. Your website, dr nicole kane.com is a great place for people to go learn more and we'll put a link to that in the show notes. But what's the best way you think for people to get started? I know you have so much to offer with your anxiety freedom challenge. Can you explain that and then we'll say goodbye?

5 (37m 43s): The Anxiety Freedom Challenge is a self-paced course where I've compiled all of my favorite solutions for anxiety, freedom. These are strategies that I've used myself as well as over the past decade with people from all around the world who don't want anxiety to run their lives anymore and who want to actually heal. And it's really amazing. It's really fun. There's videos and books and so you can find that on my website. Some people want a little bit more support though. And so if that's you, I have a holistic wellness collective, which is the investment of less than a coffee a day. And you could find that in the link in my bio, my Instagram or on my website. It's all called dr nicole king.com.

5 (38m 24s): And in the Holistic Wellness Collective, we just talk about all things health. I do have a passion for anxiety, herbal medicine, essential oils like you heard today. So we talk about that, but lately we've been going over labs quite a bit. And so if you have questions about labs, this is the place for you. And so looking forward to seeing you guys in there. And also Samantha, yes, all of the videos. Let's do more podcasts together because you're probably my favorite person to do these kinds of talks with. So yes, please, and thank you.

0 (38m 54s): Aw, that means so much to me. Thank you. Well, you're just the best. I love, you're the best guest. You always bring so much knowledge and wisdom, so yeah, let's do it again soon. I, I love it. Well, we'll put a link to all that in the show notes below, make it real easy for people to find. And yeah, we'll have you back on I he, I hope sooner than later. So thank you for spending your time with us here today on the Essential Oil Revolution. We appreciate you.

5 (39m 20s): Thank you for having me.

0 (39m 22s): The essential Oil revolution is created by me, Samantha Lee Wright, thank you so much for tuning in. As always, you can find helpful notes, links, resources, and more on our website@revolutionoilspodcast.com. Or scroll down wherever you're listening to the show notes section for easy access. We appreciate you tuning in so much. And thank you for everyone who's taken the time to leave us a rating and review or share us with a friend. It really helps to get the show into more years. We'll catch you here next week with a brand new episode of the Essential Oil Revolution. In the meantime, keep on learning, keep on discovering, and most importantly, keep on treating yourself well.

0 (40m 8s): You are worth it.

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