354: Connecting to Nature Through Aromatherapy w/ Amy Anthony
Amy Anthony was once just your average corporate employee living in New York City, when, by chance, she was introduced to essential oils. This simple, yet powerful act helped Amy reconnect to her love of nature and eventually led to a complete 180 of her life and career. Tune in to hear her story and about the many ways essential oils can positively impact your daily life.
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0 (5m 25s): I am here with Amy Anthony, who is listed as one of America's most influential aroma therapist. Amy Anthony is currently the New York State representative for the Alliance of International Aromatherapist and has her private practice called NYC Aromatica, which includes one-on-one customized aromatherapy sessions, online class offerings, corporate consulting, and article writing. Amy, welcome to the show. How are you?
4 (5m 53s): I'm excellent, and Samantha, thank you for having me.
0 (5m 56s): Oh my goodness. I feel like talking to royalty here, what is it like to be the state representative for the Alliance of International Aroma Therapist? I mean, what does a day in that position look like? 4 (6m 10s): Well, you know, it's a great question and it's a all member volunteer organization, so some of your listeners probably know naja, and I feel like the Alliance of International Aromatherapists is not as well known, but it's all volunteers, so it's a volunteer
0 (6m 25s): Position. Well, wonderful. And what's sort of the, the mission statement or the purpose of the aia? You know, as compared to something more well-known like Naja,
4 (6m 34s): It's, I think it's for the aroma therapist, so a lot of ed continuing educational opportunities, a way to create community around certified aroma therapists and enthusiasts. And I feel like Naja is more of a consumer public facing, great awareness organization. And then the a I A feels I feels a little more, like I said for the aromatherapist.
0 (7m 0s): Okay, that makes sense. So Amy, I understand that aromatherapy sort of took you out of the corporate world and changed your life a bit. I'm so curious to hear that story.
4 (7m 13s): Thank you. It's a, it's a fun story and the long and short of it is is I, I think like most of us, I grew up around plants, gardening, weeding, a lot of weeding, a lot of weeding. Amy, go, go rake the leaves. But it was just,
0 (7m 31s): Did you like it? I hated it when I was a kid. It was like my least favorite chore.
4 (7m 35s): I actually enjoyed it. Yeah. You know, it wasn't terrible. I really enjoyed it and I grew up in a pretty rural area up in the Hudson Valley of New York, but it wasn't super rural, but I had this kind of love instilled in me and that I wanted to study landscape architecture, and that didn't happen. And I just ended up going to business school. I moved to New York City because I really wanted to come back to this area. I needed the culture, but I was, I knew I was missing something. When I moved back here, I was on a fourth story, fourth floor walk up, literally ungrounded. I knew it, literally, my feet weren't on the ground. It was very disturbing, and I was finding ways to connect with nature.
4 (8m 16s): And I remember wanting to study herbalism when I was like 20, 21, and I got did the corporate thing. It was really rewarding. And then I got a little burnt out. My husband, who was very supportive, he was supportive of my quitting my corporate job in market research, which is an awesome career. But aromatherapy found me to soon after I quit and the universe kept knocking on my door saying, pay attention. So I took a workshop at Anfl New York City here, and then I studied self-study and I wanted to become certified probably two years in. And guess what, two, three blocks down from me was the New York Institute of Aromatherapy. 0 (8m 60s): Wow. And you didn't realize that before?
4 (9m 3s): She just opened the school probably three months before when I started looking. Yeah.
0 (9m 8s): And she is Jade Shoots, who's one of my dear friends who we've had on the show many times. I just love her to death and I love her institution. Yeah,
4 (9m 17s): Jade Shoots is amazing. So I started, it was the Institute of Aromatherapy with Amy Galper, who was a student of Jade Shoots back in the day. And then she and Jude joined forces Jude, she and Jade joined forces together, but two beautiful women to great aromatherapists. And so long and short is I earned my two certifications, level one and level two, and then I was asked to teach workshops, and then I was asked to become certified to teach the certification programs. So the universe was just like, Amy, you love nature, pay attention. And my message that I won't shut up about to share with people is that aromatherapy is a way to connect with nature.
4 (10m 2s): And I aromatherapy did that for me without me knowing it back in 20 12, 20 13, 20 14, 20 15.
0 (10m 11s): Yeah, I, I resonate with that allot. It's a way for, even though I live in a very nature rich area, sometimes I work, you know, I work from home, I work on the computer a lot, and I can find myself feeling disconnected, even though the woods are literally like, I can see them, I can throw stone at them, but having the bottles, the essential oils like in my house, just that much more easily accessible and have allowing me to connect with different plants and botanicals from all around the world, it is such a special feeling. Absolutely. It
4 (10m 44s): Really, it really is. Like right now to prepare for our call together, I, I'm smelling Virginian cedarwood and it's just such a, and you're in the Carolinas, right? This is down in the Carolinas. It grows up into Long Island, into New York here, and it's just so peaceful.
0 (11m 3s): I can feel that piece like coming through the microphone. I love, so, Amy, explain to me what exactly do you mean when you say olfactory aromatherapy,
4 (11m 14s): Ah, thank you. This is something I've grown more appreciation of is smelling oils and just appreciating them for how when we smell them, they go into our olfactory tract and can they ride, you know, they go through that epithelial tissue and some of the essential oil components through smelling can go to, into the blood brain barrier. And that by smelling an oil, we're also getting it into our lungs and therefore into our bloodstream. So I'm a huge fan of personal diffusion. Atmospheric diffusion done responsibly of just realizing that you don't have to ingest these, you don't have, have to have them on you all the time.
4 (11m 55s): That the oils can be super powerful and profound just by smelling them. That's, I mean, that's the long and short of it.
0 (12m 5s): Yeah, well, it's beautifully said. It's something that I, I think about a lot because essential oils can be used in so many different ways, right? We can cook with them, we can ingest them safely in certain circumstances. We can take baths on them, we can put them on our skin and our lotions and roller balls and all these things. Sometimes it can, you know, we can get a little lost, I think, in all the applications. And so I love this gentle reminder to circle around to that all factory sensation that how, you know, how do you feel when you just smell it? And that's, it's underrated sometimes.
4 (12m 43s): It is. And there's a lot of, a lot more research coming out. I think, thanks to cannabis and more people being aware of the terpenes that these affect our oxytocin levels. They, they work with G A B A and serotonin receptors and glutamate like these molecules are, they're working with us. And I think a lot of people, and by the way, part of my podcast journey I'm on is I noticed the general public doesn't know what the heck to do with essential oils, just like you said, lost in all applications. It's true. So I feel like I'm here to remind people that don't really know what oils are, and your audience is educated, right?
4 (13m 23s): But like the average person doesn't know that smelling something's impacting you on so many levels, because that's chemistry at work.
0 (13m 32s): Yeah, yeah. I explained that chemistry just a little bit more, you mentioned oxytocin, which is my favorite molecule. I know that's a weird thing to say, but it's my, it's my favorite molecule. I actually have it tattooed on my arm. People ask me all the time about it. But I used to teach childbirth classes. I was a doula for a very long time, and so we talked about oxytocin a lot, and it's a very important molecule when it comes to bonding parenthood love and childbirth. So it's just very near and dear to my heart. Which again, I know sounds kind of strange, but you mentioned oxytocin. If you could explain a little bit more about that link between oxytocin and essential oils and how we can sort of utilize that knowledge for our health benefits.
4 (14m 19s): Yeah, that's, it's a great question and I wish I had a lot more information to share. And I actually, I encourage your listeners to go check out. I was just wrapping up a class with Gabriel Moje and diffuse defusing essential oils and diffusion, and he had some research that was showing evidence that Roman chamomile helps with oxytocin levels, specifically thinking about menopause. But of course, this affects you no matter how old you are or what stage of your life, but it's really about these molecules and they're all a little different working with or near or allosterically binding with these receptor sites.
4 (15m 4s): So that's, that's was on my mind and that's why I brought it up because I literally am taking this class slowly online
0 (15m 11s): And it's, yeah, that sounds fascinating.
4 (15m 13s): It is. And it's just like we need more and more research. And I remember I just mentioned thanks to cannabis, people are giving more funding towards looking at how these molecules are actually working with our neurotransmitters. But that's, honestly, I wish I had more to share from a scientific standpoint, and I don't, which is sad.
0 (15m 37s): No, that's all right. That's all right. Well, I think, you know, it sometimes it can be as simple as this oil smells amazing and it's making me really happy. So it's like helping me emote all sorts of oxytocin, which then others around you will feel as well, you know, like that's true. When you're exuding oxytocin, the one, the people around you, they feel it, it, it helps you bond with them in this very real way. That's, that's amazing. Now, Amy, with all the different essential oils out there, I'm sure you probably have your favorites, but when you work with clients, how do you help your clients align with that perfect oil for their situation, for their needs?
4 (16m 22s): So I have to give a shout out to Jade Schutz and Amy Galper because they were my teachers. And I loved learning the holistic approach of, you have a proper, I don't like that word, proper. You sit with a person, you have an intake, you have a discussion to see what are your needs, and you think holistically. And as the trained aromatherapist, you know, like the affinities, some oils have, so when someone's talking with you and let's say they're like, oh, I'm working with, you know, PMs, cramping and sleep. You're like, okay, so you might already have oils in mind and you talk and you might then select the oils. I might select like 10 as we're talking. And I will then present those oils and say, Hey, we're gonna make a blend for you.
4 (17m 5s): Let's smell these. And if you don't like one of them, we're not gonna use it. That's okay. And they get to help build the blend that way. So I come in with my training, but I'm also listening to that person's needs. I also look at their body language and then if they're literally like, I can't stand the smell of geranium, I don't want it near me, or like, guess what, we don't have to turn to geranium. So it really is that holistic approach that I, I love, I am so grateful I had that training of just listening. And, and by the way, I mean I you, you might feel this way too, like I will always be a student of the oils.
0 (17m 43s): Oh yes.
4 (17m 44s): There's always something to learn. Always,
0 (17m 46s): Always.
4 (17m 47s): Yeah, 0 (17m 48s): Absolutely. Yeah. Can you share any stories with, without sharing names of course, and keeping privacy, but I'm so curious when people work directly with other people with essential oils, are there any stories that stick out in your mind of how aromatherapy has, has helped one of your clients get past a struggle?
4 (18m 6s): I was working with like, she's about 11, 12 years old, anxiety at school and test taking. And she finds herself getting angry. And we sat down in my office with her mother because she is a minor and I already had oils in mind to make it less complicated. I presented them to them, we built a blend together, she picked her delivery method. I offered her an inhaler or a roller ball, and I, she used it. She uses it at school and she says it helps her. Her mom has told me that she uses it at school, she works with it and she finds she's not as angry and she wants to write me a thank you note.
0 (18m 47s): That's so sweet. And so she, I assume she kind of has that with her at school and that's not a problem for her to use. Yes. That's great. I feel like more schools sh and institutions should utilize essential oils in aromatherapy way more. It's such an easy tool to, to implement and you know, to put a diffuser in a classroom or a workspace or or whatnot. Do you feel like, I don't know, do you ever go into to spaces in the corporate world especially and just go, oh, why isn't there a diffuser here?
4 (19m 18s): Well, I, I think on all levels, cuz it would be fun to go get into that more, but I think it would be beneficial. I've worked with nurses and to, did some workshops at a hospital recently where it's like find a, a room where people know there's diffusing going on and they opt in and that could be that, that happy spot or that calm spot to have that. And that could be super beneficial in a school, maybe in the, in the nurses corridors or like a special room. But yeah, I mean like to have this in an office space again, like a designated room where people can opt in to be like, I just need my five minutes.
4 (20m 1s): And you go in and you could just chill or feel enliven could be amazing.
0 (20m 7s): What oils would you pick for that room?
4 (20m 11s): Well, you know what, cuz you, like we love our oils, right? I'm looking at probably over a hundred oils in front of me on my desk, right? But we need to kind of pick the friends, you know, like the ones people know and aren't scared of. If they're like, if you're like, smell Naga, negar, Maha, someone would be like, what? You know? So I would have to pick a citrus, I think I'd pick Mandarin or sweet orange for the uplift. I would have one of the greatest hits like eucalyptus or rosemary. Maybe you'd make a blend for calming or balancing. I'd really like to make a blend of like geranium and I'd like to put maybe a little vever in there, just a whisper of vetiver.
4 (20m 55s): I wouldn't pick lavender for the workspace or school. Maybe a little German chamomile. Just, you wanna have that like modulating right? Not too sleepy. Not too, I mean, I wouldn't use peppermint because that could be so effervescent. But to answer your question honestly, it would be the greatest tits that are friends and not strangers as my friend Becky says.
0 (21m 18s): Yeah, exactly. Well cuz we know there's a, there can be a link. There's been studies done on essential oils linked to productivity and happiness. I can't remember which oils they studied. I think one was peppermint though. Yeah. So you had mentioned peppermint being maybe too effervescent, but I'm like, well wake 'em up, get it in there.
4 (21m 40s): That's personal. I have personal experiences, several of me being by peppermint and just being like, woo. But I mean, I think Lemon has a lot of research on it for that productivity of brightness. Even going back to Japan in the nineties, I think.
0 (21m 55s): Oh wow. Okay. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, Amy, you, you have so much to offer as far as wisdom goes. I see that you are an expert in using oils for sensuality. Let's dive in. Give it to me girl.
4 (22m 9s): I love it. So this is not a joke, but I was, I did teach some workshops at the Museum of Sex here in New York City, and I have a whole class I created on sensuality and sexuality. And we know that essential oils can be very supportive of our neuroendocrine system and hormones. But I look to tap into that both sensuality, right? So just blending with oils and having that mindset of receptivity and turning to oils like peti is super sexual. Some people hate it, but if you can challenge yourself or find a very beautifully done peti, I have a video on my website. It's like, it talks about it.
4 (22m 50s): Chuli goes in your hips and helps you sink into your body. Elon, Elon, when you can blend a little bit of elani, Ellan or Jasmine is a bit euphoric, but just encourages this like watery cool nature where you just wanna like melt into like a sofa or a sexy, shes lounge. So it's really about working with the oils and like you s like you were saying, there's so many ways to apply them. So maybe you just make a gorgeous blend with some guidance and you work a massage oil into your life, you know? And it's about having that message of supporting sensuality for men and women and what that means.
4 (23m 30s): And that's being comfortable in your body, being feeling safe, feeling like you can just settle into your body and into your space. And being receptive too. It could be sexual things, but receptive to, I don't know, just being you and feeling gorgeous in the, like I, I really think Chui and Elani, Ilan and Jasmine are shy there and of course Claire Sage helps a little bit and others, but
0 (23m 58s): Those all sound very feminine to me. Eva, do you feel like they can be used in for people who identify as male as well for that purpose? Or would you recommend more different oils for that?
4 (24m 11s): That's a great question that's near to my heart because I am a firm believer, I could be wrong that plants are for everybody. Essential oils are for everybody. And that plants have no gender. So it's cultural. So you know, like a lot of rose is big in India and it's, it's actually a very masculine plant if I'm not mistaken. So the oils like sex and sensual is for everybody and everyone has yin and yang in them, right? So if we can support that and that's why blendings exciting. If we can blend a little floral with maybe a little cedarwood, you know, and you could really create this blend that becomes just beauty, you know, that could be really supportive for anybody.
0 (24m 57s): Well said. So Amy, you had mentioned you sort of got your start in the plant world from weeding in your parents' garden. And I wanna kind of go full circle and ask you about your work with aromatic gardening and what that means.
4 (25m 14s): Thank you. Aromatic gardening is not just, aromatics are great for deteriorating deer and rabbits and for attracting pollinator. So those are big pluses. But as the aromatic gardener, we know that aroma can be, is very powerful. That olfaction is very powerful. But my true passion is if you are working with essential oils, I think a lot of people forget when you look at that little bottle that that takes a lot of plant material. And as a teacher, I like to encourage and I make homemade teas in class. I just gave a workshop last week with St. Anne's for the deaf. It was my first time working with the non-hearing population, which was really, really amazing.
4 (25m 58s): But having tea, how does the plant grow? What does it look like? What do, what growing conditions does the plant need? If I don't understand the plant and have a relationship with it, how can I have a relationship with the oil as a practitioner, as a teacher, as a someone who works with them daily. So I mean that's the crux of it is really just start to finish. Who, who is that oil coming from, you know?
0 (26m 26s): Yeah. Part like understanding where those oils come from is so crucial, not only from just a quality standpoint of knowing that you're using a quality product, but in a responsibility aspect of supporting the type of growers, farmers, distillers, that are helping us move towards sustainability as opposed to away from it. Because there can be such a night and day difference between those practices from different companies.
4 (26m 56s): Yes. Yeah. Well I totally agree with you. So having that understanding is, is crucial. Like, I like how you bring up sustainability. Yeah. And that's like, that's, if I could just get on my tiny little soapbox that, you know, as we know in aromatherapy, less is more so one drop swelling on a cotton pad or a handkerchief or one drop in your diffuser changes you, right? It changes the atmosphere. So it's, we know we don't need to have a lot to make a big difference, which is important.
0 (27m 29s): That's a good reminder. I'm curious your work with the non-hearing population, what was that like with aromatherapy?
4 (27m 38s): Yeah, it's, it was my first time in, I volunteered at St. George's Calvary St. George's for over 10 years, for every Thursday for over 10 years. And St. Anne's for the deaf is there. So I have a relationship with some of the folks there. I'm sharing that just because I know the, some of the people I went in doing too much with not enough time. So that was a big learning experience for me. But I had a tea, we smelled oils, I'm like, just smell the oil. And I was like, guys, watch what's happening. Notice what's happening. Like, notice how the room changed and people got to make a spritzer.
4 (28m 19s): And people, folks like most workshops were very receptive or really curious and we're loving their spritzer and loved the engagement of, you know, just being there and smelling. Yeah, it's, it's fabulous. And I like, I, like I said before, essential oils and plants are for everyone. And this is just a way to enrich our lives and yeah.
0 (28m 46s): Yeah. I like that bumper sticker idea. Plants are for everyone. Oils are for everyone. Non-exclusive here. I love
4 (28m 55s): It. Exactly. Just like for, like I was saying before, like florals are for men, trans, it's everybody, you know, it's everyone's included.
0 (29m 7s): Love it. Love it. Amy, are, is there any last words of advice that you wanna give to listeners about using our central oils or really anything else you wanna say before we move on to our closing questions?
4 (29m 21s): I love that question cuz like, oh, there's so much to share, but I think it's about just being curious and less is more. Ooh, okay, here's one challenge yourself if you would, like I mentioned Chui, many people don't like Chui cuz they had a bad experience. If you're open to it, challenge yourself and just be open and be like, what's happening When I smell an oil, if I can get past the like and dislike hedonic response that we automatically have, and this is how I work with oils and I write about them, is just smelling you. Take in that chemical information and notice what is happening in your body. And it's profound and it's challenging, but when you train yourself, you can do it.
0 (30m 7s): So Amy, this has been wonderful. It's been a pleasure having you here on this show. We've got, we've bounced around to so many different topics. I'd love it. Before you go, we always love to ask our guests a couple closing questions. And the first is, what's one or two self-care practices you try to do every day to stay healthy?
4 (30m 26s): I love this because it's something I've been doing now probably since I started studying aromatherapy. I wake up and have a glass of warm water to bathe my tissues. And more recently I make a point to do gentle stretching, like three minutes and literally I will smile and say good morning out loud or to myself to start the day on a positive note. And I really enjoy that. And to top off thanks to my friend Candace, who's in a room with therapist as well, I g i, what do I get to do today? So it's a good mindset to, to go into the day and moving. So I live in New York City, so it's super easy to walk around and do stuff.
4 (31m 10s): And I go to Long Island on the weekends, super fun. But moving, don't even call it exercise, just getting up and move. Just move, move, move is so important. Yeah.
0 (31m 21s): Yep, yep. Sitting is the new smoking yeah. Phrase lately. Yeah, absolutely. And I do, I love that phrase. Who did you say taught you that phrase? What do I get to do today? What,
4 (31m 32s): What do I get to make today? What do I get to do today? My dear friend Candace for an s
0 (31m 37s): I love that. What a great way to preface your day. Yeah. Finally, Amy, what's just one thing we should all ditch completely and replace with something healthier today?
4 (31m 49s): This is a, not a loaded question, but I thought about this. I'm like, oh man, don't burn scented candles. Please get your, the synthetics out of your life. Scented candles, the scented bath and body product, scented laundry detergents. Just get that out of your life. And we work with the oils. Go, go fragrance free. You know when you can at times, but just get these synthetics out of our environment, out of our drinking water, out of your lungs.
0 (32m 25s): Nothing but chemicals.
4 (32m 27s): Yeah. We want the good stuff like the oil, the essential oils and the hydrosols, right? And
0 (32m 31s): Teas, yeah, exactly. Or the garden. Go to the garden. Yes.
4 (32m 35s): Yeah. Like forest bath, you're by your gorgeous scar like the woods, woods near you. You said like you could step outside and just take a breath of air and go forest bathing.
0 (32m 44s): Yeah. Yeah. I'm very, very lucky to be able to do that. Awesome. Well, Amy, for those that wanna be more a part of your world, where do they go?
4 (32m 53s): Thank you for asking. So check me out at N Y C at Romantica, I have free and pay what you wish classes, one of them including on cleaning products, cleaning with essential oils, and like the power of essential oils for their antimicrobial nature. And my podcast essential aromatica. So I, I often talk about the soup I make at St. George's for aromatics and stuff, but it's about like working with getting to know the plants. So check me out. I have geeky videos, I read poetry.
0 (33m 28s): Aww
4 (33m 29s): I, I sit next to plants and talk with them. But thanks for having me on your podcast, Samantha, this is really a pleasure.
0 (33m 35s): Oh, thank you for coming on. We really appreciate you. So thank you.
4 (33m 40s): Thank you very much.
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