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After losing everything to toxic mold, our guest, Bridgit Danner, spent years looking for answers. After experiencing so much disappointment and struggle, Bridgit was able to take charge of her health and beat her situation using Functional Medicine. She now teaches about toxins and how to detoxify with a functional healthcare approach. Today she shares how essential oils played a role in her journey, as well as how to recognize the signs of mold toxicity, and even prevent it.

Bridgit Danner has been a licensed acupuncturist since 2004 and a certified Functional Diagnostic Nutrition practitioner since 2015.  After losing everything to toxic mold, Bridgit now educates about toxins and how to detoxify with a functional healthcare approach through her online community at bridgitdanner.com. She is also the author of The Ultimate Toxic Mold Recovery Guide: Take Back Your Home, Health & Life, available on Amazon.

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1 (39s): Welcome. I'm your host Samantha Lee Wright, and you're listening to the Essential Oil Revolution, the world's number one essential oils podcast where we dive into all things health, wellness, and of course essential oils. Today on our show we talk about an issue that I think affects way more people than you would think. It's the issue of mold. And even if you don't relate to mold as an issue specifically, I think everyone can relate to our guest Bridget Danner's story about how her world was just completely turned upside down after losing everything to toxic mold and how she took charge of her health, turned things around and now helps others do the same.

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1 (4m 48s): I'm here with Bridget Danner, who has been a licensed acupuncturist since 2004, and a certified functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner since 2015. After losing everything to toxic mold, Bridget now educates about toxins and how to detoxify with a functional healthcare approach through her online community@bridgetdanner.com, she is also the author of the Ultimate Toxic Mold Recovery Guide. Take Back Your Home Health and Life Now Available on Amazon. Bridget, welcome to the show. How are you?

4 (5m 24s): Great. Thanks for having me.

1 (5m 26s): Absolutely. Well, I, no one kind of gets into this line of work for just no reason, so I gotta know what's the story. There's gotta be a story here of how your life turned into doing this for a living.

4 (5m 40s): You know, it is kind of an interesting full circle story. So I got into Chinese medicine, not because I was sick more, I was very interested in like natural living and protecting the environment. So I thought that would be a good way to just educate people and get them more into that way of life. And then I started my practice in Portland, Oregon, obviously a very wet place and it took me a long time to realize that I think really first of all the climate and then a home that I lived in for about eight years was really full of toxic mold. So I was getting sicker and sicker and trying more and more things to feel.

4 (6m 25s): Well, I was eating like super clean, making my own bone broth, like everything, you know, and I would have ups and downs and I would see different practitioners and yeah, I was just learning a lot on my own, but still, yeah, up and down, up and down. And then this one winter I was just really down. I got strep throat and I didn't come back from that. I was just exhausted. I was getting IV therapy. So I was at a naturopathic clinic, a student clinic actually, and I was like, you gotta, you gotta just like figure out something from me. Like I had just done a month long detox, like I was getting IVs. I'm like, I'm not feeling better, you know, something's going on.

4 (7m 7s): And in that time they asked me anything changed in your home? And that was the first, you know, inkling and discussion that it could be a mold related because we had this musty basement and it recently had a little water intrusion. So then we tested and you know, that really ch changed the direction of my career and my life. I was, you know, treating a lot of pain and I was specializing in hormones. But once I went through this big detox experience, I knew I wanted to focus more on detox and, and mold and share that. So I just slowly moved into that specialty.

1 (7m 48s): Hmm. What was the hardest part about suffering from that toxic mold? I mean, what did that feel like? How did you finally recognize that that's what was going on?

4 (8m 0s): Yeah, symptom-wise, I, I mean, when I was at my lowest, I, I guess I was, I was at a pretty low point before I was, we found mold and then I was a even lower point when we started ripping up our house cuz we kind of made mistakes. So I mean, I was incredibly forgetful. Like my short-term memory was completely fried. I ha I would open in like a tab on my, you know, the internet tab and I'd be like, have to say like, what were you doing? What were you doing? What were you like in my head, like five times before I'd remember, I just can't even believe I was going on like that. You know, I still was running up business and everything and I remember one time I lost my cell phone for like almost an hour.

4 (8m 44s): I was supposed to be on a, on a meeting. I had put it in a kitchen drawer. Like I just, I was just becoming really spacey. My eyelid was twitching, you know, I was anxious, I couldn't sleep. My digestion was off mold can and really wreck so many systems. So I think Marley, my first symptoms were, you know, dealing with some chronic pain, digestive issues, some period issues, some insomnia. And really nobody thought, oh that could be mold. You know, like many people who go through mold and like they're experiencing symptoms for a long time and getting diagnosed with, you know, adrenal exhaustion or I b s or whatever.

4 (9m 25s): And it's just never really getting to the root because no one's considering the living environment or the working environment. So yeah, and it got to the point where I was just so exhausted. It was like my body was like fantasizing about dying. I was just like, maybe I could take some pills and not have to do this all over again. It was like not a conscious thought, it was just, this is a little scary. It was just like my body was, my, my cellular exhaustion was so strong. I was like losing the well to live, which is pretty scary.

1 (10m 3s): Wow, that sounds terrifying. Is there an official way to diagnose for toxic mold?

4 (10m 11s): Yeah, so nowadays there is a way to test through urine that's pretty good and accurate that I think they didn't even have, like 20 years ago they used to do a collection of blood tests that were more like markers for inflammation or just, you know, different markers that all together can suggest you have some kind of environmental toxin. But now they're a really good tests. They, they're not test you're gonna find in your primary care office, right? They're, you know, still not really recognized by that community. Although there are some primary care doctors who, you know, depending on where they live or they're training are getting more involved in mold, which is great, but normally it's a, a urine test you can take for your body and then there's a lot more home testing that's growing now as well.

4 (11m 6s): So yeah, that's kind of the good news is there, there are a lot more options at our fingertips if we suspect mold

1 (11m 14s): And i you say at our fingertips, but can you be a little more specific on how someone actually seeks out that form of testing? Would they have to find a functional practitioner? Is there, you know, all these direct to your home tests our, our companies are popping up? Do, do you have any experience with any of those or can point people further in that direction?

4 (11m 36s): Yeah, that's a really good question. So for body testing you often have to go through a practitioner. Like we, for, for instance, the way we do is you can put it right in your cart on a, from our website and then we interpret it for you when it comes in. But sometimes you know, you're going your local naturopath or what have you. I think that real-time labs you can order on your own as a consumer and they offer a microtoxin urine test and a dust test. So they're testing for some of the toxins that the most dangerous molds give off.

4 (12m 19s): So we have a little ebook about that and on our site to just at least get you started. Cuz it is confusing. Like, you know, the, the unfortunate part about mold is like, it's a lot to learn and figure out right? When you're not feeling well, right?

1 (12m 35s): So, and your brain's not working very well, it's

4 (12m 37s): Like, yeah, it's like being a new mom.

1 (12m 40s): Exactly. That's so challenging. Well, I wanna switch the conversation a little to essential oils. I'm sure that there were many tools in your toolkit when you were dealing and recovering from this, but tell me how essential oils played a role in that journey.

4 (12m 58s): Yeah, so it's interesting, you know, I didn't know much about essential oils previously. I just had a few, but before I found out I had mold, I had, you know, a friend who was disturbing essential oils and I bought like a starter kit from her plus a few extra things from my hormones. So I had like 15 oils or, or blends right as I was entering into this period. So I wasn't exactly studying them, I just was kind of reading the bottle and using, you know, it was very basic, which I think encouraging, like you don't have to, you know, be a huge expert, but I was so symptomatic all over the map, you know, headaches, digestive issues, anxiety.

4 (13m 44s): So I was using oils I would say in a, in a symptom relief way pretty heavily. And I do think it helped, you know, and as you know, it kind of keeps you from going over the, in the over the counter direction to you know, use essential oil. So I can get more specific, but that's sort of the bigger picture of how, yeah,

1 (14m 6s): I was, yeah, let's hear the specifics. I'm curious like what oils would you reach for and why? I mean, were they just helping you with things like headaches and Yeah, elaborate.

4 (14m 15s): It's funny, I think the one that stands out the most is I was having really chronically swollen glands in my throat and kind of my groin too. And I started using citrus bliss, which I can tell you is like, you know, doTERRA blend, it has orange, lemon, grapefruit, mandarin lime, bergamo, lisia. And again, like it doesn't even, I don't think it says anything about lymph or whatever, it was just sort of an instinct to use it and I, my body really liked that one so I would just use it, you know, topically like kind of dabbing it on my throat morning and evening.

4 (14m 56s): And then I certainly was using like digestive support, like the digest zen, which is peppermint, ginger, cardin, caraway, some of the, some of the digestive ones are also helpful for mold itself as is like a thieves or en gore type of blend is, is good for mold itself. We can get more into like how much essential oils can or can't do for mold. But yeah, I was more using it, you know, symptomatically for, you know, I was getting, I was catching colds and flus a lot because my immune system is so, was so weak. And let's see, for hormones I really liked E Lang and clarry sage for me, I was having like a lot of breakthrough bleeding during that time with my periods.

4 (15m 47s): Basil I like a lot for muscle pain, you know, peppermint headaches, anxiety. I was doing cedarwood, lavender, that kind of thing. It's, you know, it's interesting cuz I, I wasn't, you know, my, I was busy, you know, I was busy trying to survive and right. And have a kid and, and have a business and so I, again, I wasn't super knowledgeable but I think I was, but I was very consistent with usage during this entire time. So it, it's, I think looking back it did help me a lot.

1 (16m 25s): Yeah, that's awesome. All throughout, just one tip, I, one of our guests a long time ago on the show had was talking about mold and one of the ways that they would attack it would be with the thieves household cleaner, but without diluting it. So the thieves household cleaner, it's this r it's an amazing all-purpose plant-based concentrate that you typically will mix with water and you can use it as just like an all-purpose cleaner. But she would just take the straight up concentrate and spray it on, I think it was areas of her basement that she was trying to re remediate mold with and diffuse a lot of clove.

1 (17m 7s): Clove is a really powerful one for those scenarios as well. But I'm sure you have a lot of experience with the dos and don'ts of mold remediation and I'm

4 (17m 19s): Curious exactly.

1 (17m 20s): I'm thinking like one of the don'ts might be don't deal with it yourself, hire professional, but, but that's my guess.

4 (17m 28s): Yeah, I mean I think the oils can be helpful for, like you said, cleaning, diffusing, but that's really more for say while you're remediating or after you're done because you know, they aren't potent enough to penetrate drywall or floorboard or whatever and really deal with a water damage situation. So it's just important to, you know, remember that and, and do the big work as well.

1 (17m 57s): Yeah, yeah. This brings up a question I wanted to ask you. You had used, used the word toxic mold. How do you tell the difference between toxic mold in the home versus just mold?

4 (18m 12s): Yeah, good question. Really just by testing is the only way to know. You can't vis visually know or know by the smell of it. And you know, now that I've gotten to know more mold testers and remediators, there is also a danger to just a high level of mold in the home. Even if it's not one of like the dozen toxic strains, just cuz it's, it's still a load for your body to be processing and it's mixing with other chemicals and things in the home that add to your load. So there is that, I, I guess as a practitioner I focus more on the toxic strains.

4 (18m 55s): Some of those, probably the two most common are aspergillus and penicillin, which are like two families. They grow pretty quickly when there's water damage. The one that gets a little bit more famous is zacky bow trees or they call it black mold. And it is very dangerous, but it's not to say that just plain old aspergillus penicillin are dangerous. So, you know, any of the ones that are toxic are dangerous. And again, just even a just a humid kind of moldy, musty home isn't very good for you either.

1 (19m 32s): Right, right. So what are some of your go-to methods for cleaning for maybe penetrating some deeper water damage, drywall, things like that?

4 (19m 45s): So I guess there's the prevention aspect that would be more, you know, cleaning, running a dehumidifier, that sort of thing. And then there's, we may have a problem or a remediating problem. So you want me to start in one place or the other?

1 (20m 2s): Yeah, let's, let's start with, let's start with remediation and then we'll go to prevent preventative. Okay.

4 (20m 8s): Okay. So let's say, you know, any building, I really think in the life of a building, pretty much any building is gonna experience water damage, right? It's just, you know, you have a pipe burst in the winter or you know, your gutters get backed up or you know, one mediator or a tester I interviewed said every crawlspace he's ever been in has his moldy Maori. So the odds are high really. So it is good to know, you know, for, for one thing, if an area stays wet beyond 48 hours, it's, it's gonna mold. So that's like your critical time. So, you know, let's say there's a a, a flood in your base, or I'm sorry, your bathroom for some reason some people will just turn off the water and like put some towels down and that's kind of it.

4 (20m 59s): But if that water is penetrated into the floor of the bathroom, even though it looks it's dry from the top, if that floorboard it got wet now it could be growing mold and even if it appears dry or it's a dry time of the year, it still can give out spores and toxins from inside there. So that's, that's the trouble. And that can be a little harder to, you know, identify. But if it, if you do go through any incident in your home, I would say get someone out right away. I know here in Phoenix I see trucks, you know, going by that kind of emergency cleaning for any type of emergency repairs right.

4 (21m 44s): For mold or fire or whatever. You know, get somebody to look at it quickly rather than just hope for the best. So you know, it yeah, it's, it's a project. It's, you know, it's really like a becomes like a building project, you know, you have to cut out, you know, saturated carpet or drywall, you know, I live in Arizona now, it's very dry. You know, if I had some wet drywall I could potentially, you know, run fans and, and dry it out. But a lot of climates aren't, aren't as good for that. So, right. Yeah, speed of recovery's important and then really, yeah, getting a proper contractor mold mediator out.

4 (22m 31s): Unless someone in the family is just already in that industry, you know, maybe they can do it themselves. But I, I have a, a friend whose husband just like wanted the wall with like a sledgehammer, you know, no, for one thing, if you're, if you're gonna open up mold you, you need to protect the area, right? You need to put up like a plastic screen, you need to cover the vents, you need to run an air scrubber. So like those are some of the things that many home remediators won't think of. They'll just start opening things up which can actually make you sicker. So those are a few things to consider and, and you know, every situation's a little different, right?

4 (23m 13s): Cuz some things happen suddenly. Other times like us, you know, we purchased a home that we didn't know how to mold problem, so there wasn't any big leak or anything to point to. Those situations are a little trickier. And then I think you can think about measuring the humidity. For instance, we should have been running a dehumidifier in our basement constantly because the humidity level was high enough that it lets mold grow. So you really want definitely under 60%. Ideally under 50%. So if you live in a humid place, you know, consider that overstuffed closets consider that areas, areas that don't get circulation.

4 (24m 1s): So there are a lot of different scenarios where, you know, mold could potentially grow. But usually there's been some kind of water intrusion, but it could be between the walls, which, which makes it tricky to find there always a, a meter you can buy. Again, if you're handy you can buy like a moisture meter for the walls and if you get a good mold inspector, they will also test for signs of moisture in the walls among, under other things.

1 (24m 28s): Yeah. So it sounds like a dehumidifier, if you live in a humid area, is maybe one of those top tools that you would use to combat because if you, yeah. If your humidity is below, you know, 60 or 50%, then mold just simply can't grow in those areas.

4 (24m 47s): Yes. Yeah, that's a really important tool and I think one that we don't really think of. So I guess we a bit skipped ahead to remediation, but really the step before that is, you know, evaluating. So whether you have an inspector come out or you do some home testing with kits just to get a sense of, you know, what you're dealing with. Like if you have a pipe burst, you know you have a problem. Right. Some of the other problems are a little trickier to diagnose.

1 (25m 16s): Yeah, exactly. Are there any other tips you wanna give for preventative care?

4 (25m 23s): Yeah, so, you know, being a little minimal I guess there's no saying it's little minimal but not, you know, not having all your closets and everything just kind of stuffed to the brim. Letting there be some airflow in, in all the places. Cleaning often is, such as we might not enjoy it, but using a hepa vacuum, wet dusting, wet mopping cuz things gather in that dust, whether it's chemicals or mold or what have you. So keeping a clean home is great. Changing your air filter on your HVAC system is really important here in Arizona we're supposed to change it once a month because it's so dusty.

4 (26m 7s): Yeah. Some people, I remember when my, my ex-husband and I owned that house, like we didn't even know you could change it. It was like disgusting. Right? Been like three years the same Annie, we have mold and we didn't even know it, so. Right. Right. Yeah. Now that I'm, you know, own my own home, I'm good about all that stuff. You know, I'm good about Yeah. Home maintenance cuz I know,

1 (26m 30s): I know they don't teach that stuff in school. They need to have a home maintenance, they need to bring back home ec. Right. And include things like change your, your HVAC filter. That'd be amazing. It's shocking how long it takes for young adults to learn that cuz it's not their fault, it's just no one's taught them how people home. You know, it's so hard. This, this makes me think of kind of a silly question and I, I always think about like our ancestors when these conversations come up. Like, you know, back in the day there was no hvac, there were no dehumidifiers. Like everyone was burning, you know, logs in their home, which emits so much soot and ash and all these things, you know, was, were more people suffering from toxic mold back then, but we just maybe didn't really have a, a name for it and like, dying young or, or were we just sort of more robust and healthier back then and hardier, so we just like weren't affected as much.

1 (27m 28s): Do you know anything about the

4 (27m 29s): History? Yeah, I do actually. Yeah. So there are biblical references to mold and like, is it a yeast or no, it's a bacteria growing. They highlight these different protocols actually because any say say there was like, you know, these dwellings were much more primitive, but they were still dwellings and they could, they could get humidity. So there actually our biblical references about that, you know, are, are, this is a little closer time, but you know, I have, I've had some clients in England and you know, they have these old farmhouses that are brick or you know, stone and yeah, mold can grow there too for sure.

4 (28m 15s): They sometimes they've kind of accepted, apparently in England and they just call it dampness. They're like, oh, that's just a little bit of damp. It's a wet climate Also, also. And you know, there's probably, probably just, but I think to your point, there are people who are maybe harder, more in and out, you know, not in the home as much as we are now or are more far back. Ancestors were more nomadic, right? So if they kept moving and you're not staying in a, a place that's, you know, toxic for you if you just keep moving. So I think one of our modern downfalls is we can get pretty attached to our homes and they're full of stuff.

4 (28m 55s): And so if we find out there's a problem, you know, it's, it's quite expensive. We have all these things. The moving is inconvenient, you know, the market isn't good. So I just see it quite a bit that people resist moving even though frankly it could be the number one thing they need to do.

1 (29m 15s): Hmm. It is, it's a hard pill to swallow, but it is, is it can be true for some people. Is that one of the reasons you moved to Arizona?

4 (29m 24s): Yeah, so we, we, we remediated the house we were in, but we did sell it, you know, we were just not comfortable to be in, you know, it almost makes you paranoid. So we weren't comfortable to be in there anymore. But we did an, an excellent job of remediating it and we actually hired a company to come in and wipe down, you know, the walls, all the services when we were done with thieves and vinegar and water. So I feel good that, you know, the next resident is fine, but we were kind of mentally over it. So then we lived in a different place in Oregon for a rental for about a year.

4 (30m 9s): But we just kind of felt like in that climate we just weren't recovering, you know, it's just a long wet winter and a yeah, a lot of places have mold, so we just felt kind of unsafe and like we couldn't really heal.

1 (30m 26s): Hmm, that makes sense. And I, it reminds me of stories of before HVAC especially, it was quite common for sick children's or sick family to, to move somewhere sunnier, right? Like out of England for a while to recover from things like pneumonia or whatnot because that climate, that air quality, just the wetness, the dampness, as they say was, was so severe and it would be really hard to heal in that environment.

4 (30m 55s): Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah. They would just like haul 'em out to like some sunny place.

1 (31m 0s): Yeah.

4 (31m 2s): Or

1 (31m 3s): Like by the ocean or like by the seaside, right. Where the, the air was constantly moving.

4 (31m 8s): That's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. And that can be a, a good transition thing for folks going through this too, you know, you know, can you get away for the summer to, you know, live with relatives or even like camping. A lot of people will, you know, we did, we did one of these trips as well. We spent, when we sold our home, we spent two months traveling a month in Arizona and a month like kind of on the road. And it was really good for us, you know, just to take that stress of the home and all the things away and, you know, be somewhere new and get outside a lot. Yeah, it's simple and I mean it's, it's free in a sense.

4 (31m 52s): Like there's no medical treatments or whatever going on. You do have to plan it though and, and figure it out. But yeah, that, that, that's a great way actually to get some healing.

1 (32m 6s): Well, Bridget, this has been fascinating. I'm learning so much and you have so much to offer. I thank you for doing what you do. First of all, I think having a resource like, like you, that makes functional medicine a little more accessible, but you have all sorts of tests on your website that look absolutely phenomenal and all sort of rooted in this education base. So I appreciate that about you. I wanna give folks a chance to learn the best way to connect with you. But first I wanna ask you our, our closing questions. And the first is, what's one or two self-care practices you try to do every day to stay healthy?

4 (32m 47s): Yeah, well, kind of repeating back to something we just said, getting outdoors and movement are my two things. And again, practically free. Mostly free. I think that, you know, well it's not, I don't just think I know the, you know, indoor air quality is worse than out, plus being outside is just really good for our nervous systems. You know, there's just a lot of benefits. So even if it's just taking a walk around the neighborhood, get out and then movement, you know, movement pumps, lymph, it helps our mood, it helps us detoxify. So those were two things that did help me a lot and I think just keep us well as well.

1 (33m 28s): Yeah, absolutely. Well finally, Bridget, what's just one thing that we should all ditch completely and replace with something healthier today?

4 (33m 38s): All right, I'm gonna say one that's perhaps unpopular, which is sugar. I've been really a lot better about sugar this year and just taking a different view on it. I think in our society we use it so much as, you know, a reward or it's a special occasion, but it's such a, a short term pleasure for, for a lot of, you know, long-term detriment. So I just will encourage people to, you know, think about that. Like I love a sweet thing after a meal, you know, I always, I've crave it, but you do learn to just let that pass or eat a date or you know, do something healthier.

4 (34m 23s): So just might be good for people listening to just, you know, stop and question, you know, do you eat that piece of cake cuz someone just put it in front of you and can you say no thank you and, and if you really cut down on sugar, I think you start to really acutely feel how strong it is if you have it again. So encourage people to play with that one.

1 (34m 48s): Yeah. How do you feel about sugar alternatives? Like honey maple syrup or Stevia, those kinds of things?

4 (34m 55s): Yeah, I think better for sure. You know, cuz those are usually just sweeteners. I mean, you don't wanna be having sweeteners constantly all day long. That's probably still an addiction, but I think a whole food sugar, like I'll make with my son, you know, like hot cocoa with like almond milk and collagen and maple syrup and it's pretty healthy compared to the kind you get in the little packet that has corn syrup and sugar and, you know, so I, I think you can still have some sweet taste in your life. It's just, yeah, like you said, it's kind of about the quality.

1 (35m 31s): Yeah, absolutely. Well, Bridget, this has been fabulous. I understand that you have a summit coming up on this topic. Can you tell us about that and, and also point people to the best way to get in touch with you?

4 (35m 43s): Sure. So we, we have a few different free resources for mold this, it's our called Toxic Mold Masterclass. It's coming up, it will be live February 27th, 2023. But if you hear this podcast much later, the, the link that Sam gives you will still work, will still have, you know, free education there. And so we talk to home inspectors, you know, mold, remediators, physicians, naturopaths about all different aspects of this mold journey. So if it's something you're curious about, it's a great way to tune in and learn a little bit. We also have a little mold recovery starter guide that's free@bridgetdanner.com.

4 (36m 28s): And then, yeah, I have a full-length book on Amazon in audio and Kindle and print. That's really meant to be your start to finish guide if you're going through mold. So we talk about everything in detail, right? Every type of supplement type of testing, you know, all that so that you know, you just as someone who's gone through it, I feel like I really also know like the emotions that come in different stages. So I addressed that as well.

1 (36m 60s): Awesome. What an amazing resource. Thank you for putting that together, Bridget. We'll put a link to all that in the show notes, make it really easy for people to connect with you, the summit, the book, everything. So congratulations as well about this, this business that you've built around this topic. It's really exciting.

4 (37m 20s): Oh, thank you. Yeah, it does feel good to know that people who are at that real low that I was at, you know, I can do something to help them.

1 (37m 29s): Yeah, yeah. There's nothing, nothing better than learning from the person who's been through what you're going through now and has come out the other side. So yeah, we, we appreciate you. Thank you for spending your time with us here today on the Essential Oil Revolution.

4 (37m 45s): Thank you.

1 (37m 48s): The Essential Oil revolution is created by me Samantha Lee Wright, thank you so much for tuning in and listening to the Essential Oil Revolution. If you have an extra two minutes on your hands right now, do us a favor and leave us a rating and review and share us with your friends. It truly helps the show grow and get into more ears around the world. Thank you so much. We'll catch you here next week. In the meantime, keep on learning, keep on discovering, and most importantly, keep on treating yourself well. You are worth it.

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