376: Float & Sensory Deprivation Therapy and Essential Oils w/ Max Casa
Imagine a space where you are absolutely void of outside stimuli. I’m sure, like me, you assume it could be a great benefit to mindfulness and even spirituality. These spaces exist! They’re called float tanks or sensory deprivation chambers, and the benefits go far beyond just effects on the brain.
Eliminating external stimuli in float tanks promotes muscle relaxation, relieves tension, and reduces chronic pain, leading to stress reduction and deep relaxation. They’re a great way to optimize blood circulation, reduce inflammation, and enhance sleep quality.
On today’s show I share my own personal experience with float tanks, and hear from float expert Max Casa. We discuss the benefits of both floating with zero stimuli, as well as the benefits of incorporating essential oils into your tank time.
Max Casa, The Shamanic Sensei, is an accomplished lifelong martial artist, performance coach, and medicine man who dedicated his life to finding the easiest and most effective recovery therapy. Max discovered float therapy, also known as sensory deprivation, and soon realized that simply lying suspended in a silent, dark, saltwater filled tank, not only healed his body, but simultaneously enhanced his mind and deepened his connection with spirit. Max now aims to spread his wisdom on the benefits of floating, magnesium, minerals and energy, in hopes to help others strengthen and balance their mind, body & spirit.
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0 (41s): Hello there and welcome to The Essential Oil Revolution. I'm your host, Samantha Lee Wright. And today on our show we are diving into Float therapy, also known as Sensory Deprivation Therapy. And if you haven't experienced this or even heard of it before, we'll dive into all of the details today on our show, and we'll also talk about how you can incorporate Essential Oils into this fascinating practice that has been scientifically proven to have enormous benefits mentally and physically. We'll dive into all of that and more in a moment, But. first, let's pull a recipe out of our DIY dugout.
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0 (2m 9s): Well, I'm here with Max Casa, who is the shamanic sensei. He is a accomplished, lifelong martial artist, performance coach and medicine man who dedicated his life to finding the easiest and most effective recovery therapy Max discovered Float therapy, also known as Sensory. Deprivation, and soon realized that simply lying suspended in a silent, dark, saltwater filled tank, not only healed his body, but simultaneously enhanced his mind and deepened his connection with Spirit. Max now aims to spread his wisdom on the benefits of floating magnesium, minerals and energy in hopes to help others strengthen and balance their mind, body, and spirit.
0 (2m 52s): Max, it's an honor to have you here on the show with us today. How are you?
3 (2m 56s): I'm doing great. Pleasure to be here, Samantha, and yeah, look forward to diving in and chatting about all things floating and all the things you discussed, Essential, Oils, and tying it all together. It'd be beautiful. Yeah,
0 (3m 9s): I'm super excited as well because I, Float therapy has been on my radar for a while. It's kinda one of those things I kept hearing about, but I didn't actually get to experience myself it myself until very recently, like a couple weeks ago, I was able to go and do it my first time. So I'm excited to share that experience with everyone. But first, for those that have no idea what we're talking about. What is Float therapy?
3 (3m 36s): Yeah, so anyone that is listening that isn't familiar with floating or Float therapy or Sensory Deprivation, really, it's a powerful healing tool that's really totally taken the West coast in Europe by storm the past 10 to 20 years. But it's been used ancestrally in many different ways, whether it's hot springs or dead sea floats, or even the other component of it, which is the Sensory Deprivation. But really what it involves in the modern day is getting in a big egg shaped hot tub type tank, usually with a lid over the top about the size of a small car, and inside that tank is 10 inches of water.
3 (4m 25s): But those 10 inches of water are super saturated with over a thousand pounds of therapeutic raid, magnesium salts, or commonly Epson salts. And the benefits of these magnesium salts for Epson salts have been well known and well-documented for hundreds of years now, but so many healing benefits there. But those a thousand pounds of salt and just 10 inches of water create this extremely buoyant saltwater solution. And so buoyant or floaty, that when you, you could literally take a bowling ball, put it in the water, and it would easily Float to the top like a cork.
3 (5m 5s): So when you pop in one of these things like I'm sure you experienced recently, you laid down in it, and it's so buoyant that it just enables effortless floating, which has a lot of benefits to it, but it isn't just the thousand pounds of magnesium salts that makes this environment so unique. It's also the fact that the entire tank is totally deprived of all external Sensory inputs altogether, which means that you're inside that tank, you're laying there, you're floating effortlessly like a cork, you're de-stressing, you're relaxing. And at the same time, there's no light inside the chamber at all.
3 (5m 46s): Not even a single photon of light inside the tank. There's no sound or inside the tank, there's no smells, there's no movement, there's no speech, there's no taste, and there isn't even a sensation of touch inside the chamber because that saltwater that you're laying in is actually precisely heated and kept at a constant skin temperature, or 94.5 degrees Fahrenheit. So you're laying in this tank and your brain has no external Sensory inputs to grasp onto to for the first time in its entire life, oftentimes. And oftentimes that can lead to profound, powerful spiritual experiences and oftentimes life-changing experiences or meditative trances.
3 (6m 33s): Yeah, but lots, lots to dive into there. But, but yeah, in a nutshell that that's what floating is, Sensory Deprivation and, and while you're, while you're floating in the a thousand pounds of magnesium salts. 0 (6m 47s): Yeah. So I did it for the first time, as I mentioned, and it was, I started out doing a sauna. It was in a place that also had a sauna So. we, I did like a 20 minute sauna, got out of that. And then, you know, it was, it was time. And I was with a friend. And so when I'm, when I'm with my friends, we chat, we chit chat a lot in the sauna, it's really great. And we come out and she's like, all right, it's time for the Float. And, and I was like, oh, yeah, you know, how long is it gonna be? And I'm thinking, you know, 20 minutes or something. She's like, it's an hour. And I was like, what? An hour by myself doing what? No, nothing. Oh man, I don't know about that.
0 (7m 27s): I, I was, I was scared I don't do nothing very well, and you know, I'm a people person. I was like, yeah, my friend, come with me. you know? No, that's not the point. You're supposed to do it yourself. So I went in thinking, oh my God, I'm gonna be miserable. There's no way I'm gonna last an hour. This is gonna feel like an eternity. you know, I, I was a little bit pessimistic going in and I'll just say the hour flew by. I was so just zen out. I mean, it took a while to get there, but not as long as I thought it would take to just really just melt into it, I guess, is the best way I could put it.
0 (8m 14s): And, you know, when the hour was done, I was like, oh my goodness, that was an hour. And I came out and I felt like a baby. I just, like, I could hardly function in a good way, you know? I just felt like a puddle and, and felt safe and cozy. And, and then that night I slept better than I have ever slept in my life. I think I fell asleep around like 8:00 PM and slept like 12 hours straight. It, it was so amazing. It's beautiful. So I can attest, like going in, very skeptical, very like, I'm gonna hate this.
0 (8m 54s): I was very pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed my experience. So yeah, that's my experience. Why don't you share a little bit about your experiences with, with floating and what's come out of that for you.
3 (9m 7s): When you went to Float, what, I guess, what was the style of the tank? Just just so people can visualize there, was it more coffin esque, some of them are more roomy, like a, a small room or a egg shake pot, or, or would you have going on?
0 (9m 22s): So I, it was, I was with my friend and they have two rooms. One of them is the more, I think they called it the, the luxury room or something that is more like a, a larger room with kind of a tall ceiling. And I think there's even like twinkle lights that you can Oh, nice. Put on at the top if you want. Yep. And I was gonna do that one. And then, but the other room was more of the kind of coffin que egg shaped smaller capsules. It kind of looked like a capsule you would see on like a sci-fi movie that like people gotcha. Getting woken up on a, on a spaceship from like cryo sleep, you know? Yeah. It's like, time to get out. And so, and that was the other option. But my friend was, she's, she is more claustrophobic inclined than I am, so I offered to, to switch and take the smaller one, which was totally fine.
0 (10m 9s): My only complaint was I'm, I'm a little bit taller. I'm, I'm five eight ish. And I couldn't totally free Float without like hitting the edge sometimes. And those were the only moments that I was like, Ooh, it would've been nice to be in a slightly larger tank, just so I, I'm not like hitting the edge as often. Yeah, no, I hear that. But I, I could appreciate, you know, not it, it was more womb like, I'd say, which I could appreciate.
3 (10m 40s): Yeah, no, it's, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, I hear that about bumping into the sides sometimes. I can, I can play out temporarily, but Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my experience, like wide variety of different experiences. I had originally gotten into it as a lifelong martial artist and I was looking for, for a way to just accelerate my recovery as I was leading up to a martial arts competition in my, my mid-teens. And I tried everything from western world technologies to eastern medicines and self American brews and just about everything in between.
3 (11m 23s): So when I stumbled upon floating, it was a cool mix and how it really linked together the physical and mental recovery with the spiritual aspect as well, which is something that a deeper part of me was definitely craving. And it helped accelerate my connection and deep in my connection to that part of me, which is really, really beautiful. But yeah, and, and really what intrigued me originally though, wasn't the deepened spiritual states, cuz I wasn't fully aware of them in my mid-teens, but it was a lot of the benefits of floating. So for people that may not be familiar with, they, maybe they're wondering why would someone want to go in there?
3 (12m 5s): Is it, is it just to meditate? Is it for silence? And there's lots of benefits there, but really the three main pillars of benefits are all the benefits you're getting from the zero gravity, right? Because laying in that tank, like you saw, you're, you're floating, it's super buoyant. It's totally unlike laying on a bed or a mattress at the end of the night where there's thousands of springs and pain points cutting off your microcirculation, right? Is when you're in a true zero gravity environment like the Float tank there, there's none of that. There's no constriction at all. So your, your capillaries can totally vaso dilate and allows for this huge increase in surge of things like blood flow and oxygen flow and micro circulation to virtually every part of the body, which is incredibly healing for, for thousands of ailments.
3 (12m 55s): And then you're also getting all the benefits of the Sensory Deprivation and the silent darkness. And what, what's so powerful about that is now so much of your consciousness and your awareness isn't being ripped to the external world, now we can start to take our power back and and revitalize our, our energies there. And, and then the third main pillar of benefits here will transition into some other things potentially, but is the fact that while you're laying in those magnesium salts, your body is actually soaking up transdermally through the skin magnesium ions and the other Essential minerals that we pack our solution with transdermally through the skin, which is incredibly healing for thousands of ailments as well.
3 (13m 46s): But yes, those are, what
0 (13m 47s): Are some of those other nutrients? So you had mentioned the magnesium and the Epson salts. Do Float spas typically put other elements in there too?
3 (13m 57s): Yeah, so it's, it's interesting because that's, that's kind of a niche that I've been playing in for a while now, is just encouraging Float spas like the one that you went to or Float tank owners to optimize their Float tank solution. Right? So just to maximize the healing of that. So a lot of 'em just fill it with straight up Epsom salts. Right now it's probable at the, the Float tank you went in just used Epson salts, which is great and there's many benefits to that. And there's magnesium in the Epson salts. Cause the mag the, the Epson salts are magnesium sulfate. So there is a lot of magnesium in there. But there are other magnesium salts that we use and that we provide, which are based in, instead of Epsom salts, it's magnesium chloride as the base.
3 (14m 49s): And this may be interesting too. I don't know if, I know it's a part of my routine where I make a magnesium oil lotion and I mix with some Essential Oils in there. Particularly I love the lavender and Frankincense and I'll spray it on as a topical lotion. I don't, I don't know. Have you, have you ever messed around with the magnesium oil at all?
0 (15m 11s): I, a little bit, especially in my Pregnancy. I remember it was, is recommended for that. I, I struggled with the itchiness of it. I don't know if you hear that a lot.
3 (15m 21s): I I, I do. Yeah. It can be, can be itchy I guess for the magnesium oil per se, or floats or baths. It doesn't matter. Epsom salts are great, but once I learned that Epsom salts have a sneaky cousin called magnesium chloride, which have over 230% more magnesium than Epsom salts, we started to make those switch in our baths, in our foot soaks and ultimately in the Float tank solution as well, swapping the magnesium sulfate or the Epson salt for the magnesium chloride, which again has nearly two and a half times more mag.
3 (16m 3s): So now you're in the Float and it, you have way more magnesium available to the body. Your body's soaking up a lot more magnesium. Cause the magnesium's chloride is a lot more bioavailable transdermally through the skin. And yeah. So it, as a result, if you were to Float in something like that, it's a lot more
0 (16m 20s): Interesting. I'm really, now I'm really curious what they used. I mean, I slept like a baby that night, so I'm, I'm wondering if you know which one it was. Is that, is magnesium chloride something readily available for, one of my questions I'm kind of trying to get to is like, can people kind of make their own type of Float spa in their bathtub? you know, if they just put a bunch of Epsom salts in and kind of get a little taste of it.
3 (16m 44s): I hear I've, I've been trying, we can get aspects of it, but it's tough. I've, I've yet to seen a bathtub that I can spread out. Just whatever, like you can totally eat,
0 (16m 59s): Relax and free Float. Yeah.
3 (17m 1s): You know, and, and in order to, to fill it with that much Epsom salts to be able to, to Float, I think would overflow the, the bathtub a few times over. But the, the Sensory Deprivation side is a little tricky. But we, we can make some, some, some, some modifications. The Float,
0 (17m 19s): The Float part, the Sensory Deprivation part, a little tricky, but at least the kind of magnesium nutrient intake might be there.
3 (17m 25s): A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's something that's a big part. So if someone, maybe they don't have access to a Float spa or, or Float Float tank, then absolutely. One of the things that we would like to see more people incorporating is not even just more magnesium, but in particular more transdermal magnesium. Because what we see is with oral magnesium supplementation, oftentimes it takes nine to 12 months to impact our red blood cell magnesium markers. Hmm. Which is the most accurate magnesium blood marker that that's commonly used. But we see with transdermal magnesium or when we're soaking in it, whether it's in a bath, whether it's a foot soak, which I'm huge on, whether it's in a Float, whether it's the, the topical lotions, the magnesium sprays, or Oils or anything like that, those are great ways because the magnesium ions are absorbed directly through the hair follicles of the skin.
3 (18m 25s): It's not even the skin, it's the hair follicles. Magnesium ions just travel directly alongside the hair follicle and, and are absorbed directly into the bloodstream immediately right away, rather than having to wait months to Yeah. To really see that impact, you know.
0 (18m 42s): Interesting. And where do you buy bulk magnesium chloride?
3 (18m 47s): So if anyone's interested, we do offer our magnesium chloride vitality salt blend. And it has a lot of stuff in there like the magnesium chloride, the purest form with the co co-factors of magnesium blended in there as well to help maximize the absorption of the magnesium and how much your body can actually utilize and all sorts of stuff in there. So yeah, I'm sure we can, we can throw the link in here somewhere for the vitality cells.
0 (19m 15s): Yeah. Put it down below. But, but also for people just listening, your website is maxvitality dot co not.com.co.
3 (19m 22s): This is true. This is true. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I was gonna say, I was just gonna add in just to, to tie with the experience of The Essential Oils, it's interesting, it, the, the Float industry's come a long way since the, the sixties when it really first began. But there's been some interesting research, and I've had some experiences as well with, again, we're in Sensory Deprivation, so the idea is to cut out a lot of the Sensory inputs to the brain and minimize those. But there is this realm of active floats versus passive floats where passive floats, you may go into the tank and you may just sit there or lie down and meditate and just passively have your Float experience.
3 (20m 16s): And then there's this realm of active floating where maybe people are leveraging different frequencies during their Float. Maybe they're using different frequencies of light during their Float, maybe they're using Essential Oils, which is actually common if you go into a Float center, oftentimes they, they, they have different Essential Oils you can, you can dab on because the experience of those plant essences in Sensory Deprivation, when it's just your inner being and the essence of that plant oil, it can be a really intimate and extra powerful experience and connection there.
3 (21m 5s): And yeah. Yeah. So I'll I'll plant that seed.
0 (21m 10s): Yeah. Well that was a thought that I had had going into the Float spa for the first time. I was like, oh, should I, you know, bring my Essential Oils I can normally do? And then I was like, well, I mean, isn't the point Sensory Deprivation? So wouldn't I be kind of, you know, going against that thought. So I, I opted not to to do that. So what, what are your thoughts on that sort of Essential oil Aromatherapy if you are trying to experience that Sensory Deprivation pros and cons?
3 (21m 37s): Totally. Yeah. I mean, I feel for Beginners, I feel, again, really no right or wrong way to do it, but if someone's intention is to go in and connect with the silent darkness and that medicine of the true Sensory Deprivation, then absolutely go ahead and, and do that and soak it up and learn that experience. But with that said, The, Essential Oils can be a powerful piece right there as well. So
0 (22m 6s): I would imagine, especially if you're kind of going for the spiritual connection or more meditative cognitive experience, I, I imagine things like Frankincense or Palo Santo or, you know, maybe even some risso like very healing kind of experience. Like what have you tried and what have your experiences been?
3 (22m 31s): Yeah, the Frankincense, I love the, I love all the ones you just mentioned, but the, the Frankincense has been calling me. So yeah, I guess like we said, a again, everyone's experience is unique with each Essential oil per se. I know we tend to see different patterns, but what I'm interested in with any of the things, whether it's sound, whether it's light, whether it's Essential Oils during a Float or outta the Float, but can I let, how can I work with this essence, right? I i I maybe I put some of The Essential oil on my upper lip pre Float, and I, I go in there, how is that altering my experience?
3 (23m 20s): I guess what I'm personally exploring is how can I kind of piggyback on the essence of Frankincense to help bring me to this state and this inner place of a form of union with the one, and that's that, maybe that's my personal process, but for me, I'm, I'm working with these plant essences, something like Frankincense and riding that essence into my heart and loving it and enjoying it and yeah.
3 (24m 2s): And falling into that as deeply as I possibly can. So yeah, what you can use whatever you'd like, whatever Essential oil you feel like riding and, and going into it as deep as you can.
0 (24m 17s): Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's interesting to think about the Sensory Deprivation where you're, and then you choose like one scent, right? Let's focus on this one sense of, of inhaling smelling this aroma and what, what an interesting way to experiment to, to see how you react to a scent. you know? And I like what you said, the f like falling into it. That's a really great kind of imagery there of falling into as scent. Now on a practical level, you would not want to go into someone's business that runs a Float spa and start adding Essential Oils into their water, right?
0 (24m 58s): Correct. Might might kick kinda mad about that.
3 (25m 1s): They may, they may, depending on the scent, but yeah, no, I'm just playing. Yeah. What's, what's interesting, I wanted to bring this up. The Oils of the, of The Essential Oils, if it is an oil based Essential oil, obviously don't mix too well with the saltwater solution. So it'll be floating up on the top and maybe a little tricky to filter out there. And again, like we said, we, we would also be impacting fellow floaters experiences there. And maybe they were opting for something more of the Sensory Deprivation. So what's interesting is they wanted to explore, back in the eighties, there were some researchers that wanted to explore introducing Aromatherapy into the Sensory Deprivation in one of their studies.
3 (25m 49s): And the way they went about it, which is actually kind of funny, they, they, they were using a nasal cannula, which is like one of the things you'll see in maybe the hospital, you know, like 0 (26m 5s): A gas mask. I
3 (26m 6s): Must, yeah, basically, right. It has the, the tubes and the two little tubes that go up the nose and they wear flooding in different aromas to see how that impacted their experience in the Sensory Deprivation, which is pretty interesting. That was kind of their way of getting around the Oils in the tank type thing. And then, but what I have more experience with isn't nasal cannulas in my floats. It's, it's been more, there's actually a cool product, it's called Float Sense, no affiliation there or anything, but it's, it looks just like a, like a chapstick that is infused with Essential Oils and I'm sure it has a nice Carrier base, some sort of lard.
3 (26m 54s): But yeah. And then you just put a small amount, cause again, The Essential Oils in the Sensory Deprivation, when there's nothing, there's no other distractions and all of your consciousness is just on that plant essence. It's a very, very powerful experience. Yeah. Consciousness altering experience, because that's the only input there, you know, so you go fully into that essence. So I guess, yeah, you just take a little bit of that chapstick, just put a, a couple dabs on your lip or around your face somewhere, even maybe sometimes towards the chin, because it's, it's really that strong and
0 (27m 37s): Yeah. And when you Float you typically keep your face dry like you're floating and your, your eyes typically don't get, don't get wet or you know, that totally of your face. So that would work. I would also think just like taping a cotton ball on the roof Yeah. With some Essential oil on it would work, but, right. I like to style.
3 (27m 57s): Yeah.
0 (27m 58s): Keep it, keep it classy.
3 (28m 1s): That's it. I think that's the call.
0 (28m 3s): Yeah, that's it. Well, you had mentioned some, some studies that have been done on, on Float spas and, and you've already briefly kind of talked about the benefits of Float, the benefits of magnesium and whatnot. But are, are there any interesting facts or kind of alarming statistics that you've come across in the studies that you feel like most people don't know about when it comes to this?
3 (28m 27s): Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's many places we could take it in terms of benefits that the studies are showing in terms of visualization, whether basketball teams are now going in and just visualizing themselves taking free throws, and they're totally outperforming the rest of the basketball team. That was all throughout the week on the actual court taking free throws for hours on end. So a lot of powerful visualization studies, hypnosis studies, because hypnosis is shown to be over five times more effective when it's done in the Sensory Deprivation because there's no external distractions at all. So a lot of, a lot of powerful work being done on hypnosis.
3 (29m 8s): A zero gravity, obviously there's many benefits there. The magnesium that's being absorbed through the skin and, and how magnesium's Essential for many bio, yeah, over 42% of our electric body and energetic body is totally run independent on magnesium in particular. Wow. So that, that's really important. But yeah, so a lot of different sciencey things, but I feel, for me, one that I feel called to share is just the fact that every single second of the day we're being bombarded and hit with our nervous system and our brain is, it's constantly having to process and dissect over 10 to 50 million bits of Sensory information every single second of the day.
3 (29m 60s): Right? Again, that's 10 to 50 million bits of information. All these different bits of inf in information, whether it's light or sound or, or tactile sensations or mapping out the external world. There's so much that are constantly being pressed with and stressed with, really, because those can also be immense stressors to our nervous system. you know, it's a lot of work. It's a lot to do. So when I'm in the Float tank or outside the Float tank, even just in meditation as well, the beginning of the day, just bringing my mind to this place of one pointedness where we can disconnect from the monkey mind that's constantly being pulled in all these different areas.
3 (30m 45s): And if I don't do a practice like this, and I'm just going throughout the, throughout the day, my mind is constantly being ripped. I'm at the mercy of my mind. I'm getting thrashed around all day long, you know, so if, whether it's in the Float tank, whether I'm sitting meditating, whether I use some Essential Oils, whether I'm in a bath, whatever it is, but I'm sitting there and just bringing my mind to this place of one pointedness and what that could look like is not stopping my mind altogether because the mind is doing its thing. you know, I'm not gonna try to control that too much. That will lead to a lot of angst and stress. All we're looking to do is just give our mind or feed our mind one primary predominant thought that we ask our mind to just stay on and keep its awareness on, you know, so maybe we sit here in meditation or in the Float tank, and I just give my mind every time I breathe in, I'm just gonna say, my mind just says breathing in.
3 (31m 49s): And when I breathe out, it just says breathing out, then breathing in. And while I'm there, if my mind starts to drift elsewhere, just letting it go, bringing it right back to that one single thought and keeping my mind as one pointed as possible. And I, I know it may, may have seemed a little side noy, tangenty, but I, I just feel passionately that that's a, a powerful practice, whether it's done in the Float tank or out of the Float tank. Yeah. I just wanted to share.
0 (32m 25s): Yeah. Well, Max, this has been so interesting, all of it. I have one last question for you before we wrap up. And, and that is, who do you feel like needs to Float? you know, I feel like there's a lot of listeners and they might think, oh, that's a, that's a hipster thing, or that's for people who, I don't know, meditate or, you know, there's a lot of assumptions that go into who floats, but in your opinion, you know, who can really benefit the most from this?
3 (32m 55s): Yeah, that's great. And yeah, one, I wanna say everyone, but, but yeah, really, if you're someone that maybe is feeling stressed, is feeling angsty, is feeling un ungrounded or uncentered or maybe disconnected from that part of you deep inside, if you're struggling, maybe to sleep at night. Cause I know you had mentioned, and a lot of people do, just how much deeper you're able to sleep at the end of the night because your stress levels are so much lower and because you just got this huge hit and bump of magnesium right into your bloodstream.
3 (33m 41s): So yeah, really, if anyone's battling any of these health conditions, anything related to magnesium deficiency, which there are many, there are hundreds of thousands of conditions related to that as well. So any of those fibromyalgia Yeah. Different ticks or, or muscle twitches, anything like that. Heart health, all that stuff. So there's a, a wide range here, but really ultimately anyone that's looking to yeah, connect with their inner being, maybe it's someone that's looking to maximize the recovery of their physical health, or if they're looking to just learn about themselves and the mechanics of their mind a little bit deeper.
3 (34m 25s): I, I feel floating has, it's a cool form of therapy because there's a lot to offer, a wide variety of different people. So yeah, I, I definitely recommend anyone listening to this, it's a great place to start. I would highly recommend giving it a shot, just putting all expectations or assumptions to the side, going in, feeling the experience for yourself, seeing what the silent darkness is all about, experience what it's like to just go in and experience more or less nothing. And just watch and learn how your being reacts to that nothingness. you know, is it uncomfortable? Cool. you know, why is it, is there something we're running from, you know, for example, we can go deep into that, but, and then if you do try it, we just recommend three floats.
3 (35m 12s): And I always recommend three floats in a short period of time, ideally within that first month, because each time, maybe the first time you go into Float, it takes you the first 40 minutes to really relax and, and surrender into the environment. And then you get like the last 20 minutes of relaxation, you know? But the second time you go in, now, maybe you drop in and you, you trust the environment more and you can, you can relax at 15, 20 minutes and the third time you're able to get in there and kind of click in and, and soak up more of the benefits that that floating has to offer.
0 (35m 46s): So, Max, before we wrap up and say goodbye, we always like to ask our guests a couple closing questions. And the first is, what's one or two self-care practices you try to do every day to stay healthy?
3 (35m 59s): Mm, love it. One is definitely Float. If I, if you
0 (36m 7s): Float every
3 (36m 8s): Day, if anyone guessed it, I, so I, I do try to Float every day. The days that can can't Float. I try not to get too bummed about it, but I'll supplement in there because again, if I have time to bath, I'll, I'll get in for a Float, you know what I mean? But the foot soaks are actually really a really great supplement there because the foot soaks, we're still getting a lot of the benefits of the transdermal magnesium. We're still mixing in the self-love. Usually I do it in a, in a, a nice quiet, soothing place and I get my meditation on and we can throw some Essential Oils in there or, or stick cotton balls all over the roof, whatever, whatever we're feeling.
3 (36m 52s): But, but it's cool cuz I, I load it with hot water as, as hot as I can handle, opens up the pores more and the bottom of your feet are interesting because the largest pores in your entire body are on the bottom of your feet and the nerve ending to every major organ in the body, which is why they're such a Essential piece of the Chinese medical system. But yes, you just take a couple tablespoons or something like the vitality salts, the magnesium chloride at the co-factors, put it in there, put your feet in 15, 20 minutes and soak it up. So I feel that's, that's a really cool practice as well.
0 (37m 29s): Yeah. That's awesome. Well, finally, Max, what's just one thing we should all Ditch completely and replace with something healthier today?
3 (37m 37s): Mm, it's an interesting question. I, yeah, I'm pretty deep into like, I guess, I guess like alternative, alternative health, I guess. Yeah.
0 (37m 50s): Eat more alternative.
3 (37m 52s): Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I guess there's a lot of things I I see as oftentimes doing more harm than good for people. One that I feel called to share today is many, we can go into the, the spiritual or the physical, but I'll share a physical cause I know we went to the spiritual a little bit, a lot of people here that salt is bad. A lot of people here, other people here that salt is good and there's a lot of confusion around salt, how much they should be consuming, what variety to be consuming. And now we're talking about like oral, like table salt type stuff. you know, we'll just put the seed out there. A lot of people are using like pink Himalayan, some people are using like white sodium chloride like you find at a restaurant.
3 (38m 38s): Some people are using more the gray Celtic sea salt. Salt can be very great. Salt is a very powerful supplement. And it, and it's Essential, you know, there's a part of our biology and our bodies that just crave the essence of salt because we're, we're programmed to know that that is the most nutrient dense, one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet or substances on earth. That's why if you put a salt brick out by a lake, there will be, for example, if you go in Idaho and you were hunting, you just put a giant salt brick out by the lake and you'd have five to 10 elk and moose licking the thing for six to eight hours a day every day.
3 (39m 26s): Cause they, they just get so attracted, their, their brains are so wired for that nutrient density. And salt is very nutrient and mineral rich. And that's what we're going for. The minerals. The, the issue is with the pink Himalayan and the Celtic, there are a lot of different trace minerals in there, but what we see is the color there, the pink and the pink Himalayan and the gray and the Celtic are both the heavy metal iron, which again, there's a lot of misinformation about iron. But that iron I is very rusty and oxidizes when it's in your body and can cause a lot of dise and disharmony.
3 (40m 8s): So we're looking for a salt, we're looking for a white salt. And the, the most nutrient dense, mineral rich salt on the planet that's also happens to be white is Icelandic sea salt, Icelandic sea salt that has over three times more magnesium than even Celtic salt just second best and over three times more potassium. So if we just take a little bit of that cel, that Icelandic sea salt rather to use it to, to mineralize our water, just a small crystal of it before we drink our water. It'll help with our hydration, it'll help with our mineral levels and the minerals of the backbone of our enzymes, our biochemicals, our Hormones, and, and really our biology.
3 (40m 53s): So just use that asla, Icelandic sea salt, it's very powerful, a lot of minerals in there, over 84 trace minerals. And as we start to top off our trace mineral levels, we have more energy, our body can, can perform better. We feel better. And yeah, just, just get rid of the other salt and let's get some Icelandic sea salt and load it up. 0 (41m 16s): And you, you had mentioned putting a couple of drops in your water, but would you also recommend, you know, cooking with it, putting it on your food just completely replace like the other types of
3 (41m 26s): Salt? A hundred percent with that, yeah. It's just a, a, a full spectrum dense, rich salt sodium chloride is literally just sodium and chloride. A salt like this has over 84 minerals in an ideal ratio for the body. And, and we, we can just use that on top of everything.
0 (41m 47s): And I would assume obviously it does not have iodine in it, which kind of brings up that second question for people who are like, but iodine, we, we all need it. you know, why else would the government put iodine in all of the salt? you know, this, it's an interesting story actually, if you wanna kind of hear the whole story about how, how iodine was added into salt and how that became kind of a, a federal level institution program. Malcolm Gladwell's revisionist history podcast has a whole episode about it. I think it's in season four. I think he does a deep dive on that. That's really interesting, you know, is in a nutshells of basically to prevent goiters in landlocked towns when that was a big thing.
0 (42m 31s): But, so yeah, what's your thoughts on iodine? And if it's not in your salt, you know, do we need to get it from somewhere else?
3 (42m 39s): Yeah, it's, yeah, a few great sources for it. Yeah. So I guess, yeah, I would love to hear just super quickly the, the rough summary of what he speaks of in that, that podcast. I'm definitely gonna give it a listen.
0 (42m 54s): Yeah, well, you know, one thing he doesn't talk about in the podcast, which I find frustrating is the, the health side of, you know, what are the potential cons of, of that form of iodine being in all the salt. And he doesn't really talk about, you know, he's not, he's definitely not like a, a health guy crunchy guy. Like he loves Taco Bell. I'll just say, you know, and so the podcast doesn't really go over that. It really focuses more just on the history of, you know, I think it was in like the 1920s that goiters were a huge problem. You would like go to certain towns and, you know, nearly half of the population would have these huge goiters on their necks.
0 (43m 36s): And scientists were like, you know, why, why is this happening to some populations and not in others? And they discovered it was basically landlocked towns that did not have iodine NaturallyDIY in a lot of the food sources and the foods that were being grown. And so they decided, I can't remember exactly who and how it came about, but you know, scientists studied, researchers were done, scientific studies were done, and they ended up putting iodine in all of the, the salt, they decided that was the most accessible, cheapest, most universal thing that pretty much all people consumed.
0 (44m 16s): So let's, and, and it absorbed iodine really easily. So, and I'm sure there's a similar story there to how like they decided folic acid needed to be put into all of our rice. you know, like these interesting institutional level decisions that I find super fascinating that definitely have their huge pros, right? I mean they pretty much like fix the goiter problem. You don't, you don't go around and see populations ridden with goiters anymore, but it didn't really talk about like the cons of any of that either as far as like the type of salt people are eating and the, what they're missing from other natural salts and things like that.
3 (44m 55s): Yeah. So I guess, yeah, these salts are supernatural. They will have trace amounts, you know, but, but it's nature's nature's ratio of iodine to the other minerals. Yeah. And yeah, something that gives,
0 (45m 12s): Well, and I'll say too, like if you go, if you eat like a meal, if you eat out like once a week or once a month even probably in you're, you know, you're eating salt from like any sort of restaurant or takeout, you're probably getting your, like all, all the iodine you need right there, right in that one, one eat out session. Right. Yeah. Well thank you Max, this has been, it's such an interesting conversation and, and again, I hope it really encourages some people to go try, try out Float spas and, and incorporate some Essential Oils, maybe not your first time. you know, I think maybe people should experience the true Deprivation for at least their first time, but after that, start experimenting with your Oils, bring in your favorites, maybe bring in your not favorites, right?
0 (45m 56s): And, and really meditate on on that. But just make sure you're following rules if you're going into a business that you know doesn't want you using since, gotta be respectful of that. Well thank you so much Max for your time and for those that wanna reach out to you, your website, maxvitality dot co is a good place to go. Anywhere else you wanna send people?
3 (46m 20s): Yeah, I mean they feel free to, to check us out on Instagram too. We try to try to keep it fun and, and yes, keep updated on what we're up to our path, physical, mental, spiritual, all that jazz at my personal is at Max Casa, M A X X C a S a and we also have the business side of things with the Float tanks and the bass salts and we actually have an all-in-one mineral stick, one a day mineral stick mineral optimization stick that we're gonna be releasing within the next month or so. So. We'll have to get you some of those, get you stocked up once those drop. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. And it has all the Icelandic salt and the, the ideal ratio of a bunch of other minerals in there as well.
3 (47m 8s): Yeah. So we're really excited for that. But yeah, you can keep updated on, on Instagram again at Max underscore vitality.co next Float, I'm gonna bring a couple handfuls of, of cotton and, and some electrical
0 (47m 24s): And make sure you bring a tape that'll stick to the kinda wet walls. Right.
3 (47m 28s): I know, right? Yeah, no glue. Be inconsiderate. Yeah.
0 (47m 32s): Awesome. Thank you so much Max, it's been a pleasure having you with us here on The Essential Oil Revolution. We appreciate you. Yeah.
3 (47m 39s): Appreciate you Sam. And yeah, thank you so much my friend. Keep inspiring.
0 (47m 44s): The Essential Oil Revolution is created by me, Samantha Lee Wright, thanks so much for tuning in. We'll catch you here next week with a brand new episode on The Essential Oil Revolution. In the meantime, keep on learning, keep on discovering, and most importantly, keep on treating yourself well. You are worth it.
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