328: The Three Phases of Detoxification w/ Dr. Wendie Trubow

 
 
 

You do all the right things –– eat right, take your supplements, exercise, use essential oils –– but you still feel sick. The doctors say you're perfectly healthy but don't feel it. Our guest today, Dr. Wendie Trubow, explains why so many people feel this way, and what to do about it. She's the author of “Dirty Girl: Ditch the Toxins, Look Great, and Feel Freaking Amazing!”

Wendie Trubow, M.D., MBA is a functional medicine gynecologist with a thriving practice at Five Journeys, and is passionate about helping women optimize their health and lives. Through her struggles with mold and metal toxicity, Celiac disease, and other health issues, Trubow has developed a deep sense of compassion and expertise for what her patients are facing. 

 

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0 (39s): Have you ever wondered why you just don't feel healthy? You eat the right things. You exercise, you use essential oils. You take your vitamins, you take your supplements, but still you just feel tired or you're the person that's getting sick all the time. Or your doctors say, you look great, but you don't feel it. If so you are not alone. Our guests today, Wendy true Bo is the author of dirty girl ditch the toxins look great and feel freaking amazing. And she walks us through the biggest reasons why people feel this way and what to do about it.

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0 (6m 32s): She's the coauthor of dirty girl ditch the toxins look great and feel freaking amazing. Wendy, welcome to the show. How are you?

3 (6m 41s): Great to meet you. Thanks for having me on

0 (6m 44s): I'm so excited about your new book. I want to dive into it. When was this written? This is like a new book for you just released, right?

3 (6m 51s): Yeah. We released in October of 2021, right. For the holidays. Right. But

0 (6m 55s): Right, exactly. Cause everyone wants to learn how like toxic our world is right before the holidays.

3 (7m 1s): Yes. Our publisher said, nobody's going to give this as a Christmas gift. You know? Like, like I love you. You're so toxic. I love, you know that, but I surprisingly a lot of women in my practice where like I bought four or five for all my friends and that just sort of flies in the face of what our publisher told us, but okay.

0 (7m 19s): That's great. No, I love it. Well, I mean, I think it speaks to the fact that it's like, people are, there's no more blinders on. I mean, some people sure. Still kind of have those blinders on, but I feel like those are just kind of coming, being, been coming off in the past, like decade where people are like, well, yeah, duh, there's like a lot of toxins around and you know, dub big corporations really don't care what they're putting in products. And you know, they're not protecting us from, from X, Y, Z. And I feel like there used to be a lot more resistance to that. And now it's sort of shifted into people, just kind of waking up and being like, yeah, duh, let's do something about it. I don't know. How do you feel?

3 (7m 57s): Well, think about genetic modification. Okay. Intrinsically it's not the devil, but it's not for us. It's for the company, so, okay. What does it make it do grow faster. That's not for us. That's for the company be stable on the shelf longer. Definitely not for us. That's the company. It doesn't increase the nutrient value that would have been for us. What does it do when you, when they hybridized wheat, it made it grow faster. Be drought resistant, not fall over, be pest resistant. That's cool for prices, but still it's about the company's product. Right. So I do agree with you there. They're looking more for what are ways that they can improve their offering or make it faster to market, but it's not necessarily doing something good for us.

0 (8m 44s): Yeah, exactly. So what are some examples like in your book of toxins that people might be consuming, you know, every day even, and not even kind of realizing it.

3 (8m 56s): Okay. Brace yourself. This is way you're going right for the juggler on this one, right. Like just right to horrifying. So, okay. We're not, we're not having any preamble, so basically you can't get through your life without being exposed to toxins. So just to be clear, this isn't a no talks game. This is a reduce your exposure game.

0 (9m 16s): That's a really common distinction.

3 (9m 18s): Yeah. Oh yes. Especially, I'm assuming most of your listeners are female and we're really hard on ourselves. And so it's not just like, I'm going to do better. It's like, I'm going to do perfect. I am going to rock this. I'm going to be the best at it. You know? And especially

0 (9m 35s): Really for mothers and mothers that have young ones too, where like, we, you know, we, we sometimes can give ourselves a little bit more wiggle room of what we like allow into our bodies. But when it comes to our kids, sometimes we're just like, you know, must be zero and it must be perfect. Not practical. Yeah.

3 (9m 52s): Yeah. So I just want to really encourage everyone listening that that is a very deep pit that you can't come out of. So don't fall into the perfect pet, fall into the I'm going to do better today than I did yesterday, pet. And sometimes I'm going to have a bad day and it's okay. So with that preamble food, if you're eating food, that's not organic. Or if you're eating organic food, that's grown in fields that are right next to the spray fields. And there's drift of your pesticides. You get exposed that way. Then within the food, if you're eating a lot of sugar that acts as a toxin. If you drink alcohol, if you eat artificial flavors or colors, those can act as toxic to the body.

3 (10m 36s): If you eat too much of a good thing, it acts as toxic to the body and you eat food a lot. Right? So eating food is a hugely beneficial. Eating organic food is a tremendously beneficial way to level up. Okay, then you go, okay. When I shower, I wash my hair, I wash my body. I shaved my legs. And then I put stuff on my face. Then I do makeup. Then I put stuff on my body. Then I get dressed. Every one of those points is a point at which you're likely being exposed to toxins from the, the majority of them are endocrine disruptors. And what that means is they look like hormones to our bodies, but they, what they do is they occupy the typical receptors and then throw off our bodies.

3 (11m 21s): And then we still have to process it just like we have to process our hormones. So at every step of that little lovely process, it gets thrown off and we end up with acne, messed up periods, fertility issues, PCO S bad menopause, bad cycles, PMs, breast tenderness, you name it. We've got it. And so all of the endocrine disruptors that we get exposed to in our makeup, our hair products, our body products, our clothing, our dry cleaning, you know, I was so psyched. I found a clean, dry, cleaner. So I called him and I said, Hey, so happy to hear from you. What do you use to clean your clothes?

3 (12m 2s): And he'd spells it out for me. I wrote it down. And then I went and looked it up. And honestly, it's not really any cleaner. It's just not straight formaldehyde. It's an, a derived formaldehyde. And I went, oh, okay. So that's not going to help me. So now I don't buy silk because you can't, I can't wash silk. I mess it up. But everything else goes in the wash. Doesn't matter what it is. I wash it. It doesn't go to the dry cleaner. So dry cleaning, plastic water bottles, or plastic kombucha bottles, whatever you're drinking from that's plastic is harmful. Can liners gasoline, fumes, the bed you sleep on has flame retardant. I mean, are people still even listening?

3 (12m 44s): I know we're not live

0 (12m 48s): Glaze over glaze over it. Well, you, I feel like, I feel like my particular audience, like, they're, they're the best to shout out to anyone listening right now. I love you guys so much. You, you know, this stuff, you know, you know, this it's some for some of you, it's what sort of led you to essential oils to begin with as you sort of started waking up to, oh my gosh. Like I got to start somewhere. Right. And so an easy place for a lot of people to start is like household cleaners or personal care products. Those things that you're, you know, spraying or using in your house, or, you know, scented candles, for example, like we all know like how toxic, those are such an easy replacement to just use a diffuser instead.

0 (13m 28s): Right. And it's fun. It's trendy. It's great. So those are, you know, really easy places to start. And, and again, you listeners, you know, that already, that's sort of like why you're here. And a lot of you make your own body products or make your own shower products or cleaning products with essential oils, such a great place to start. But as you've listed Wendy, there's a lot of things we can't really control. Like we can't, you know, we can't strip the fire retention out of our mattresses. Right. And not everyone can afford a $3,000 mattress, you know, that doesn't have that stuff in it. So I'm kind of backtracking a bit to, when you mentioned, like food was one of the first places you, you mentioned for those that, you know, can't afford to eat all organic.

0 (14m 16s): Do you have any tips of like a middle ground there where like the dirty dozen, or are there effective ways to kind of clean the food and clean the pesticides off food?

3 (14m 26s): There's a ton of ways to improve this Samantha. And so let's start with, again, perfection's not the goal. Just keep improving. And so I, I love the dirty dozen to avoid. And then I also love the clean 15. Right. And then with,

0 (14m 43s): And for those that don't know what those are, those are lists that you can, you can Google them, like just Google the clean 15 or 30,000. And those are sort of the top produce items to avoid buying inorganic. Cause they're, they'll, they'll retain the most amount of pesticides basically. Like if you can only afford to buy some organic, make those, the ones that you prioritize.

3 (15m 6s): Yeah. And other ways. And then by the waste, man, that's put out by a environmental working group, which is one of my top favorite sources for when I I'm. I'm so prone to getting greenwashed I'm like really? Enrollable I'll see something I'm psyched. I'm like, oh, that looks like the best product or pay. They

0 (15m 22s): Tell me it's green. It's got,

3 (15m 24s): It looks green. The packaging looks beautiful. I'm all enrolled. And then most of the time I have the brain space to go, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no. We've gone down this before. Let's go to environmental working group EWG dot or, or think dirty. Those are my two go-to sites, usually EWG. And look it up before you buy it. Look it up because I have been greenwashed more times than I'm still greenwashed at times because

0 (15m 49s): Well, we all are. I mean, I think we all crave those easy, quick wins, right? Those easy, quick, Hey, I don't want to have to make all my own stuff. I don't want to have to distrust every product on the shelf. Right. It's a good feeling to, to see something and go, oh, this, they get me. They get me. This is natural. This is organic. This isn't going to harm me. And unfortunately, it's not always the case because of that greenwashing. And the fact that you pay more for that product is just sort of the cherry of pain on top. Right?

3 (16m 23s): So always go to EWG. But we were talking about ways to make the food more sustainable or affordable. So fruits and food that's organic is much more attainable and achievable sometimes. Do you can often find them in the frozen section that are organic. And if you think about it, I know it's nice to think about, oh, I'm going to make a peach pie with peaches. I picked, although they never let us pick up here. I'm in Massachusetts. And those are in bags. They don't like us touching the trees. But if you think about it, you've saved yourself. Some work you've saved yourself time. And if it goes, if you make a peach pie and it's not organic, and you've peeled all those, you know, cut out the peaches or you buy the organic frozen peaches, you've actually sort of leveled up on that one.

3 (17m 12s): So I would, my vote would be definitely pay attention to the dirty dozen, the clean 15, the things that are highest in pesticides and the most that you don't need to worry about them as much. If they're not organic and then get frozen fruits and vegetables, because they've been flashed frozen, they retain a lot of their nutrients and minerals. And so that's one really nice way to get in there. And then farms, actually, if you live near a farm, they will often, you know, I always struggle with what's better local versus organic.

3 (17m 52s): And obviously local organic is the best, but you can't always have the best. And so it's, it's, I would say, if you do have to go for pesticide, go for local, she can talk to your farmer and understand, you know, our farmer. A lot of them around here will do integrated pest management. So they spray, but not when the fruits on the trees, they spray beforehand. So they're selective about how they do it. So being able to talk to your farmer and understand, like, what am I getting here? What, what, what is it? Right? And then the other side of it is maybe you can't avoid it in the food, but you can certainly improve your liver's ability to get rid of it.

0 (18m 33s): Tell me more. Yeah.

3 (18m 35s): Okay. So you, most of the toxins we're exposed to, they are fat soluble. So there's a lot of layers to this. So the first part about being fat soluble is if you have too much of it floating around and your body's kind of freaking out like, oh my God, I can't deal with you right now. You're going to store it in your fat. So for the listeners who are like, I do everything right. I eat, right. I'm not a stress ball. I exercise, I watch my calories. I don't eat sugar. I don't drink alcohol. Why or am I not losing any weight? Right. The people who do everything right, and are still sort of stuck in a place, they don't want to be in their bodies. It's because in the fat you're storing toxins, you can't get rid of your weight until you get rid of your toxins.

0 (19m 20s): How long did those get stored for too? You know, like if you've been eating clean for, you know, 10 years, but you're still like retaining this fat because you used to eat like a ton of bad stuff or inhaled bunch of toxins, like it's there forever.

3 (19m 34s): Well, it's kinda like, you're not voluntarily going to get rid of it. You need to encourage the body to get rid of it. So we're bombarded with so many things that we have to deal with that even though you've been eating clean for 10 years, you're still getting exposed to the air quality, the water quality, the stress, the lack of sleep. Maybe now you're perimenopausal. So the system's a little bit more challenged. So there's a lot of things that layer on to this. And so your, your body can't deal with it. Your liver can't deal with it. So going back to detox, you're exposed to a toxin. Most of it's fat-soluble and your liver does a huge proportion of detox.

3 (20m 14s): And liver works in two phases in phase one, you take that toxin and you make it a toxic intermediate on its way to being water-soluble that's the goal, right? Water-soluble so you can dilute it and pee it out or poop it out. So you take it, you make it more toxic, totally counterintuitive, but that's what your body does on the way to making it water soluble. And that's a free, radical it's hanging out and it is toxic to you. And then your liver is like, oh, bugger. I really need to get things done here. And it moves it to phase two phase two binds that toxin, it has six different pathways and it binds that toxin either glucuronidase set or puts a methyl group on it puts or sulfates it, it does a bunch of things to it.

3 (21m 2s): And it makes it now inert. And water-soluble, those are the, like the big things you want to remember. And then you either pee it out or poop it out. Cool. Right? However, there's a lot of places this can go wrong. So phase one for people's usually pretty quick, especially for women. Phase two is often slowed. Okay. So now think, okay, you, you made this toxic intermediate phase two is slow. The body knows it's toxic. What are you going to do with those toxic intermediates? You're going to put them in the liver. So more it gets stored in the liver. So one goal is boost up phase two. But now if you go back to what happens once you've made it in, or you put it in your gut and you're trying to poop it out, but how many people have constipation and it just sits there, or they have dysfunctional gut bacteria and inappropriate enzyme activity.

3 (21m 54s): And this is where it gets really fascinating. There's this enzyme in the gut, particularly for hormones. And it's called beta glucuronidase and it's a nasty actor. What it does is it cleaves that bound hormone. I always think of the hormone with its binder, like a barbell. It cleaves that bound hormone, separating it. Now, remember if you've cleaved it. Now you have your, again, toxic intermediate that is not water. Soluble can, cannot stay in the gut because it's the guts water. It's fat-soluble it goes back into your bloodstream. Your BloodStream's like already dealt with you. I don't have time to deal with you now because I'm now dealing with the 50 other things that I get exposed to every day, go hang out in the fat.

3 (22m 37s): Right? So you start to see that the fat becomes the and bones for metals. So the fat and bones become this overflow storage Depot, and we just keep piling it on. Right. So allow in a pause there because

0 (22m 51s): Yeah. There's a lot, a lot to unpack there. Yeah, absolutely. Well, and so part of this kind of, I want to, I want to unpack some of this. And so let me sort of recap in my, you know, not as science-y driven brain, you've got the kind of three phases of detox. So well, backing up even further, most of us have toxins stored in our fat cells. It's like the fat cells are protecting the rest of our body because we don't want those toxins just floating around in our body. The body goes, no, these are harmful, but I can't deal with eliminating them right now. I'm overwhelmed. So let's just store them in the fat. Now for those that want to detox, those get rid of them.

0 (23m 36s): They have to go through these phases. The first phase is to release them from the fat somehow. Right.

3 (23m 42s): Right.

0 (23m 43s): Tell me, tell me about that phase a little bit more. How do you start that process?

3 (23m 49s): So take this with a grain of caution, right? Because I'm, I'm, I'm pausing here because I'm trying to straddle a line between not giving medical advice to people. I don't know. And also wanting to make sure people don't get sick from things that they do after listening to us talk. So the first thing we'll say is you can absolutely make yourself really sick. So you don't want to do that. The goal is not to like

0 (24m 17s): You're forcing this phase one. We're forcing this release of toxins. Yeah,

3 (24m 22s): Yeah. From overloading the system. So think about, let's go in a really extreme case. Someone goes on a very extreme diet for two months and loses a boatload of weight. Often those people get really sick because what they've done is they've forced the body to release all those toxins through this starvation essentially. And because when your body goes into a key tonic state of starvation state, you're going to start using fat and you'll start to release what's in the fat. So you can use the fat as fuel. But if you have all the toxins stored in the FA and now they're circling around your body, you have a state in which you're being exposed to many more toxins thing you should have been.

3 (25m 4s): So, so please don't do dramatic, crazy diets to lose weight quickly because they can make you really sick. It's bad for you. Okay. Slow and steady wins this race. So let's go to what are some accessible things that are safe, that aren't going to make you sick that will then have the outcome you want, so you can eat your way to health. Okay. And now having said that I was chock-full of toxin. So there was no way I was going to eat my way to health because I was a mess. Right. So if you're like me and you're, you've got terrible detox genes and lived a life that was very stressful.

3 (25m 45s): And, and then was a child of the seventies and eighties and piled it on you. You may be like someone like me, who needs to do some more focus, detox, but most people can start to amp up the system on their own. So food phase one foods are the foods that are, you think of the east Indian spices, like turmeric slash curcumin. It's it's the turmeric is the food. Curcumin is, is the S the spice and the herbs, ginger garlic, things that are, that are hot and increase the heat actually S and even red pepper, you know, the spicy peppers things and increase the heat.

3 (26m 29s): And the, the passion can also improve phase one detox in the liver. There's a whole, we actually have it on our website, the whole list of foods that can improve phase one detox, and then phase two detox are things like cruciferous, vegetables, meats, flesh, eggs. So you can specifically eat to improve your body's ability to detox. That's that's a low hanging fruit, right? Because you eat anyway. So how bad would it be to throw some cilantro parsley into your salad every day, or eat that every day, it starts to become accessible, right? You go, oh, okay. I'm going to eat, eat parsley every day.

0 (27m 9s): So this is kind of a dumb question, but are you, if you're doing this kind of low-hanging fruit, gentle approach thing, are you eating these phase one quote-unquote foods and phase two foods at the same time, or you kind of do them back to back?

3 (27m 25s): No, no, no. You can eat them together. It's not like, it's not like you have to eat in a certain order to avoid spiking your blood sugar. It's not like that. You can totally eat it in the same meal, throw it out,

0 (27m 34s): Like your, all your body can't, your body can be in multiple phases at the same time. It can be like releasing toxins and detoxing, those toxins, you know, on the same day and at a given time. Yeah,

3 (27m 44s): Yeah. A hundred percent. So improving the way that you're eating and giving your body what it needs to do. Phase one and two are amazing. Here's the unpopular part. Samantha don't drink alcohol because it's a toxin. And so basically, you know, think of it. Like, I always say I have four kids. I always say to them, only one can have a meltdown at any one time. I, you know, like you can't all go off the rails at once. You gotta take a number. And so sometimes they'll be like one, you know, all four of them yell one. So think of your body, your body can't deal with, what's stored. If it's now dealing with an acute problem, which is I have alcohol, I need to deal with, so don't drink alcohol.

3 (28m 28s): That would be the next, the next layer of it, because it does stress the liver a

0 (28m 33s): Lot. Yeah.

3 (28m 35s): And then move your body. If you sweat, you get rid of toxins. So, you know, it's, it's become a badge of honor to be like, oh, I don't sweat. And I'm like, no, no, no, that's bad.

0 (28m 46s): I've never heard anyone say that with a badge of honor. I've always, I have a hard time sweating. And that's why I have my own and infrared sauna. It's like a little pop-up infrared sauna. And I love, love getting that thing. Cause it's the only thing that makes me like sweat. And I'm like, oh, this feels so healthy. When I, when I'm not sweating. And I'm like, this doesn't feel good. I feel like this is very bad.

3 (29m 7s): Yeah. So not sweating is very unhealthy. You can do infrared sauna. There's a million ways, right? There's sauna blankets. There's the pod that you have. There's the crazy built-in ones. Like you can do any level of this. Everything is better than nothing. So when, you know, especially being female, perfection is the enemy of good, right? So that's not to say like aim for the middle ground, but that's to say, you know, be kind to yourself and do what you can do. So move your body before you move your body. If you're not the best sweater, dry brush, so that you can get the blood flowing to the, and then move your body. Okay. So think of ways sleep, you have to sleep enough or it's really creepy.

3 (29m 49s): But when you sleep the cells in your brain shrink size, so you have the same amount of real estate, but the cells are taking up less space, which means the space in between the cells gets larger. And that actually allows the toxins to drain out of your brain. So allowing the body adequate rest and sleep actually makes a difference in detoxing because you can't rest. If you're always in a fight, fight flight or freeze state, okay, this isn't even the things that you can do to promote detox, right? This is just sort of maintenance. So then you go to the next level, which is causing detox.

3 (30m 30s): So fiber fiber serves to mop up toxins in the gut, and we can release about 1% of our body's mercury stores in a day. But guess what? We recycle 99% of that 1%. So if you can prevent your body from recycling and actually get it out. So fiber is tremendous. Cause it'll bind to that, that mercury and lead, get it out of your body, making sure the guts functional. So the fiber helps with that and making sure that you have a good gut avow with a functional medicine doctor to see, you know, what probiotics do I need? Do I have dysbiosis? Do I have a candida overgrowth what's happening in there?

3 (31m 12s): What's what's the status? Do I have over overactive beta glucuronidase so these are, this is not a test that your conventional doctor will necessarily have,

0 (31m 21s): But these are, you're saying these are important questions and answers to, to get before you go into like a high level detox program or something

3 (31m 30s): Always want to fix the gut before you start detoxing, otherwise you're going to be sicker and that's not the goal, right? You can definitely do detox. You'll be a little bit fatigued, but you shouldn't be down for the count. That's not the goal. Okay. And we've only really talked about, you know, we haven't even talked about mycotoxins, which are mold that hangs out in your body and makes toxins, those respond really well to binders. There's a whole range of things. So other things you can do, glute precursor, glutathione is what your liver needs in order to get rid of toxins. And what's really crazy is so if you have high levels of mercury, you're going to use up your glutathione. But when you've used up your glutathione, you can't get rid of your mercury.

3 (32m 10s): So you circle the drain. So the precursors for glitter, glitter, the hands kind of expensive in stable form. A Quicksilver makes the best one it's lyposomal, but it's expensive. And so then you go, okay, this isn't the most sustainable behavior to do. So the nice thing is that the precursors for glutathione are cheap. So inositol cystine and alpha lipoic acid cheap, super cheap, like 20 bucks for a bottle of 90 or something, get, I am a vitamin snobs or don't buy it off Amazon because you have literally no idea what you're getting, unless you can track it back to the actual company selling it, that the company is selling on Amazon. That's fine. But if it's some no-name brand, don't do it because you have no idea what it is.

3 (32m 54s): But look for physician grade brands, and these are the, this means it's been tested for purity. It doesn't contain what it shouldn't and it does contain what it says. It's going to contain. You can take NAC, you can take alpha-lipoic acid, fiber and do the pro platform things and eat really well. And that's going to take you a long way, honestly.

0 (33m 17s): Yeah. You know,

3 (33m 18s): I, if you're looking for like, I want to get rid of everything, I want to make, know what I have, you're going to need a functional medicine console. Right? Because you need the data and you can't do the data alone. And so, you know, you that's the level at which you would bump it up and say, okay, if I want to take key leading agents, I'm going to need a functional medicine provider because we're looking at making sure what you have and that we haven't pulled out too much. Yeah. It's a balance.

0 (33m 44s): Yeah, absolutely. Now, as far as your book is concerned, do you go into different protocols, different vitamins, like a lot of the things that you just listed. I mean, cause I know as you say, people should really link arms with a functional medicine practice or practitioner. So I imagine there's only so far, you can go in the book because there is, there is no one size fits all when it comes to detox, even though a lot of people make a lot of money making those claims. So yeah. Tell us a little bit more about kind of what's in your book and how people can, can use that as a resource. And then I want to throw in a couple of essential oil tips before we move on to our closing questions.

3 (34m 23s): Yeah. So I love our book. It was a pleasure to write. It's called ditch. It's called dirty girl ditch the toxins look great and feel freaking amazing. And we sell it on Amazon just because people trust Amazon and they know it and you don't have to pay for shipping if you have a prime. So we wrote it because I realized I was such a mess. I had everything heavy metals. Mycotoxins a bunch of environmental toxins. I was a mess. And what I realized is like, I've done the platform behaviors for years. So ate really well. Sweated slept. I thought I didn't sleep enough till COVID hit. I wasn't sleeping enough. And since COVID, I've really prioritized sleep, but I've, I take all these supplements.

3 (35m 3s): Like I was the poster child. I never, I don't drink alcohol. It's been like 16 years. I don't need sugar. I don't eat processed carbs. Like if you look at me on paper, you're like, oh, that girl is boring. I'm like, Nope, don't eat gluten. Don't eat cows dairy. Don't do any of that. Like,

0 (35m 18s): Don't invite me over for dinner.

3 (35m 20s): Right. Don't I never get invited for dinner because they're like, what can I feed? I'll feed you air. You can come breathe at my house. So, so I did all this stuff and yet I was such a mess. And so we wrote this book and it's really meant to be a roadmap to take you as far as you can go on your own. We don't give protocols in the book because that's stepping over the data. You don't know what you're treating, so it's not appropriate to go hardcore into a heavy metal protocol until you understand what are you trying to remove? Right. So when you're looking at, so you think of it in sort of two parts, one is ongoing life getting rid of what I'm exposed to. And the other is let's get rid of all that crap I've stored, right?

3 (36m 2s): Let's clear up the storage Depot, the ongoing life is the part that you can do on your own. And the clearing out the storage Depot is where you want to get a functional medicine provider involved because that's the cut point because you start to, you can hurt yourself if you do it too hard. And then I think it's great. You know, you mentioned that the essential oils and I think they're really fantastic for house cleaning products, particularly because they're natural and they're antibacterial and they're like they work. So I'd love for you to talk more about it because I'm not an expert in you are on that part. But I think I totally support them.

0 (36m 40s): So essential oils are really there. They're so multi-layered as far as how they can support someone on a detox journey. And as we've talked about multiple times, it's not a one size fits all approach either. So, you know, there's no like one essential oil that you should take during different phases, but in, in general, you know, essential oils, great for lowering your toxic load first and foremost, by replacing those toxic household chemicals or body products that you're using, you know, even, even you can make your own toothpaste, right? With orange essential oils, Aila, Tal baking soda, really easy stuff, especially if you're on a budget. You know, if you're trying to, trying to divert some of your funds to be able to afford, you know, the glutathione or the, you know, the, the good quality fiber and that kind of thing, then you can save a lot of money by using essential oils to kind of DIY those everyday products.

0 (37m 35s): So that's like one big thing. Lemon essential oil though. I want to give a shout out to, and there's, there's a lot of studies done on lemon oil and the constituents that are in it as being really good. They're, they're sort of like scavengers for free radicals and your body. So they can be really supportive in helping your body get rid of those free radicals if you do it within moderation, right. If you're overdoing it. And that's the problem we talk a lot about on the show too, people kind of overdoing essential oils, and that's just, that's a lot of, that's a lot of chemicals going into your body, not bad chemicals, but just, you know, molecules going into your body that do have to get processed through your liver.

0 (38m 18s): And so you don't want to overdo it either on the essential oil side, but lemon essential oil can be really beneficial. If you have a food grade lemon oil, you can take that in a capsule. You can put it in like lemonade, things like that, or just rub it over your liver. And you can also put lemon oil over your liver and then put like a castor oil pack on top of that to sort of drive it into the liver a little more and that can help support your liver's ability to detox on its own. And then the last thing I want to mention with essential oils is just there benefits for sleep too. Like you said, we cannot heal.

0 (38m 60s): We cannot do what our bodies need to do if we're not getting enough sleep. And so a lot of people really struggle with that and essential oils can be extremely beneficial when it comes to supporting better sleep at night. You know, whether you have a hard time falling asleep and you need, you know, a blend that's going to help kind of shut your brain down. Something may be high in Sasquatch. Turpines like Cedar wood or frankincense or sandalwood, or if you have a hard time staying asleep, lavender, citrus blend, those kinds of things can really help with that. Pine. I love to put pine on the bottom of my feet to help me stay in a deeper sleep.

0 (39m 40s): And it really works very well. So those are just some of the ways that essential oils can help. But we've, we've talked about it a bit on the show before. So if you search for a detox on the podcast app, then you should be able to find some more tips there too. Yeah. So Wendy, are there any last pieces of advice you want to give to people before we move on to our closing questions?

3 (40m 3s): Yeah, I would say it's a, it's a process. It's a journey, not a destination. I've been doing this. What I would call hardcore detox for three years. And you know, my husband keeps saying, take a break. And I'm like, I just wanted out. I just, I I'm particularly loyal to my toxins apparently. So think of it like a journey as opposed to some place it's not a relay race. You're going to get to the end. You're going to be done because we're constantly exposed to new things. And, and I think what I would say is it's, it's intrinsically meaningful and helpful because if you want to be vital, vibrant, healthy, alive, able to be intimate and interested in intimacy till you're a hundred, which is what we say is our goal for everyone.

3 (40m 51s): Then to do that, you're going to need to take away the chronic health issues that are going to keep you from getting there. And removing toxins has a direct line that you can draw a direct line from fixing toxins, fixed cardio cardiovascular disease, fix metabolic disease, diabetes, PCO S Alzheimer's Parkinson's cancer that you really can see the correlations between these. And so it's just important to know that you can do this. It takes something, but you can do this. And perfection is not the goal leveling up as the goal

0 (41m 30s): Well said,

3 (41m 33s): Support

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0 (43m 48s): It is about the journey and not the destination. That's really important to keep in mind when you're doing this kind of healing work. Absolutely. So thank you for coming here today, before you go. We always love to ask our guests a couple of closing questions. And the first is what's just one or two self-care practices that you try to do every day to stay healthy.

3 (44m 9s): The F the first is to make sure what I'm putting in my body. I'm proud of, you know, like I'm proud of what I ate. And the second is I, I really try to, in terms of, you know, what we didn't talk about was relationships between us and others. So I really try to speak kindly to myself and others because the we're so hard on ourselves and that shuts detox down. So food be proud of it and speak kindly to myself and others. 3 (44m 49s): Those are the two things I really work on every day.

0 (44m 53s): I love that. That, especially that being proud of what you've eaten, you know, like if you ask yourself that question at the end of the day, Hmm. Was I proud of what I put in my body today? You know, how often is that answer? Yes. But ask yourself that in the morning, before you start your day, right? So it's not about beating ourselves up. It's about

3 (45m 10s): Already know in the moment.

0 (45m 12s): Yeah. Am I proud of this

3 (45m 15s): As I'm cooking dinner? Like, am I going to be proud of this?

0 (45m 18s): Right. I love that. Yeah. Finally, what's just one thing we should all ditch completely and replace with something healthier today.

3 (45m 27s): Oh, food. I mean, non-organic food, wherever possible, processed food, sugar in the category of food, anything you can do to level up is better than nothing.

0 (45m 40s): Absolutely. Well, we opened up a big can of worms today. We weren't able to dive into every, every aspect and it can be a bit overwhelming for people to know like where to start. So where would you point people if they want to be more, a part of your world, what's the best place for them to go and where to start?

3 (45m 58s): Sure. There's three places. So one, they can follow I'm on all the social, but the Instagram is at Wendy turbo MD and our website. We have a free guide to nontoxic living that's at five journeys.com forward slash promo. Obviously read the book because it gets, you started right at like gifts. You get you on the path. And then we have a podcast of our own called the five journeys podcast live like you matter. And it's all about leveling up.

0 (46m 29s): I love it. Well, thanks again, Dr. Wendy, for being here with us today, we really appreciate you sharing your wisdom with us here on the essential oil revolution.

3 (46m 38s): My pleasure. Thanks for having me on

0 (46m 41s): The essential oil revolution is created by me, Samantha Lee. Right? Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll catch you here next week with a brand new episode in the meantime, keep on learning, keep on discovering and most importantly, keep on treating yourself well, because you are worth it.

 

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